Quote: "JRo69"
Quote: "Camerinvs"Whatever dictionaries say, I would never define a coin collector as a numismatist. As a matter of fact, I've seen coin collectors who are actually detrimental to the discipline of Numismatics, e.g. by making up stories about coins (to increase their value), by hoarding coins away from scholars, by acquiring coins on the black market (this is a big one!), etc.
The people you refer to in the first paragraph are privateers and profiteers, not collectors. IMHO, Collectors are numismatists, because they study and research and value the coin for more than the profit they will receive from it.
They are not exclusionary categories. Scholars know well how difficult it can be to obtain information from collectors. This is true as well with regard to trying to obtain the right to publish rare manuscripts and printed books from bibliophiles. The philologist or historian doesn't need to own the physical artefact. He/she needs a professionally published edition of these artefacts. In addition, if the artefact is stolen or destroyed during a war, at least its documentary value is largely preserved if it had already been published.
As for the black market of antiquities, including coins, it wouldn't exist without collectors. An antiquity enters the black market because someone sees the potential of a quick profit to be made from the private and illegal sale of artefacts illegally obtained. States have much better laws about the traffic of antiquities than they used to. Antiquities looters are well aware of this but they also know that there are wealthy collectors willing to acquire new artefacts at high prices, so they take the risk. There is also a lot of corruption going on at the local administrative level.
I would consider myself a numismatist in a few specific areas, but not most. For example, I am
not a numismatist of Islamic coins, even though I have helped many with deciphering Arabic legends. I am
not a numismatist either of German coins, though I collect them because it's quite fascinating to see the changes of political regimes and ideologies reflected in the coins and notes (and even more so in the stamps).
While Modern Numismatics is less useful to the modern historian than Ancient Numismatics is to the ancient historian, still, there are areas where Modern Numismatics could contribute a lot more than it currently does. I believe one such area is how copper/bronze coinage could be studied for a better understanding of the "street economy", especially in the 19th century. Thanks to the mountains of documents now available through the Internet, the possibilities are endless. One doesn't need a physical copy of the documents (coins, books, newspapers, etc.) if they are accessible ("published") online digitally.
By the way, in the latest volume of
Roman Imperial Coinage (
RIC II³ Hadrian, published 2019), they use several digital collections such as BeastCoins, OCRE, and Wildwinds!
I'd be interested to know what you mean, Mr. Midnight, about these
book sellers ...
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