Unidentifiable Coins [solved]

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Hello!

Since some of you were able to identify the last coin I posted here, I have two more.
Both were found in Germany, North Rhine-Westphalia.

This coin was found on a field, the diameter is approximately 20-21mm
There is a 2 in the middle.






This „coin“ was found in a forest under a tree root. The diameter is 21-22mm.




Unfortunately I cannot weight the coins as I don’t have an accurate scale.

Thanks in advance
I'm not sure if it will help in this case, but please crop your images. Cropped images make it easier to see the coin details in the images on Numista.
Pictures brightened and cropped ...

1. [20-21mm]

2. [21-22mm]
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
1.
Germany
Years: 1873-1877
2 Pfennig - Wilhelm I type 1 - large shield
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces1923.html




Similar, but 2 is slightly thinner.
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
ZacUK you have an eagle's eye! Well done!
Long time collector with huge double coin selection. Has huge selection of Japanese historic coins. Trade based on KM catalog values.
Thank you for the answer again!
I really dont know how you are able to identify these coins.
Status changed to Solved (Wertinas, 5 Sep 2021, 18:57)

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