A lot of people on here with silver coins for swap insist on only swapping their silver for other silver coins. Frankly I don’t understand this from a collector’s point of view. As a stacker pure silver weight matters but as a collector I would gladly trade silver or even gold for a base metal of the same value.
It's an usual requirement, even though not always respected by the one who imposes it ...
There are sometimes other requests such as: proof vs proof, or 2 € CC vs 2 € CC, the notion of "special swap", etc ...
This type of request is also intended to warn the slightly dizzy partner that this particuliar coin is more valuable than the others.
For the negotiation of a swap, this type of request does not generally create too much problem when we respect each other.
Quote: "Frenchlover"It's an usual requirement, even though not always respected by the one who imposes it ...
There are sometimes other requests such as: proof vs proof, or 2 € CC vs 2 € CC, the notion of "special swap", etc ...
This type of request is also intended to warn the slightly dizzy partner that this particuliar coin is more valuable than the others.
For the negotiation of a swap, this type of request does not generally create too much problem when we respect each other.
I have listed some coins as special swap before. There are some coins that I have spares of or don’t collect but I’m only willing to give them up for something I really really want. As you said, it also generally denotes a higher-value coin.
Quote: "GoldenGarfield"Can someone else please weigh in on this?
I added this to my silver coins after I got a few swap requests where only my silver coins were added to the swap and there was nothing of equal value in the list to add for me. It's mainly to scare off the stackers. When someone adds a silver coin and I can get something nice in return, I have to hesitation to swap silver for non-silver
Just the latest example for me and clearly some people do not read the profile of the people they propose to swap with. They simply ask for everything and anything without even a thought about what they have to offer in return. I got a swap request for 62 coins including older 19th and 20th century coins including 1 gold and about 10 silver coins. The one gold coin is valued more than his entire swap list. When I look at his swap list he has no silver, no gold, and nothing but low value, very common, recent junk to offer in return. How do you even respond to people like that? It insults the intelligence and lacks any common sense at all. If you want to rob me, just pull out a gun. Silver for silver implies value for value and you have to give some people a clue because they don't have a clue. As Frenchlover puts it, "slightly dizzy" If you have 1 or more copper coins of real value that equals the value of 1 of my silver coins, great! Unfortunately, many do not. I say silver for silver because if you have no silver, there is a very good chance you won't have anything near the value in base metal coins.
Status changed to Solved(GoldenGarfield, 16 Aug 2021, 15:20)
So it’s less about actually exclusively swapping silver for silver and more about deterring swappers who think their coins are valuable enough to get silver…
Quote: "GoldenGarfield"So it’s less about actually exclusively swapping silver for silver and more about deterring swappers who think their coins are valuable enough to get silver…
Essentially, yes. Right on my profile it clearly states I base my swaps on Value and often it does not seem to matter. It's a pity it even has to be mentioned but that is the mentality we are dealing with for far too many members here.
I would like to swap for silver coins, but I know I don't have the value in my swap list to make an equitable swap for say, a 1986 100 Francs from France. For the few silver coins I do have for swap, I would expect more than a couple common coins that are not near the same value.
Silver for silver is all about equitable swapping for both sides.
The main reason I like swapping silver for silver, is than I enhance my collection, as does my swap partner.
Most I have dealt with, fully understand my logic of marking items ' special swap only'.
Like others have stated above some create a swap list with more coins on it than they have in their collection. I have also been offered very common coins for a gold coin I have for exchange.
Being polite, I just state a sensible reason for not moving the proposed exchange forward.
I have never gone by that, I cant find the coins I want anyway, so a trade is unlikely. I have completed plenty of My silver for others NON silver coins, and have been happy with that. Sometimes offering silver has opened up some more scarce copper or (non-precious) older coins.
For me it depends which silver, Eagles I will trade easy, Older Silver is not likely just due to availability.
After you get a swap request for $300+ of silver, with no silver even available in the swapper's list, you'll begin to understand the "silver for silver" trend.
Quote: "gyoschak"After you get a swap request for $300+ of silver, with no silver even available in the swapper's list, you'll begin to understand the "silver for silver" trend.
I don't really understand it. I would gladly give away a ordinary 20th century silver circulating coin from France or Canada for this coin: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces50122.html
In my opinion it's about similar values, not about the composition itself.
I'm not orange and also in other things I'm not a Donald at all. DonChori like Don Felipe or Doña María, por favor.
Quote: "gyoschak"After you get a swap request for $300+ of silver, with no silver even available in the swapper's list, you'll begin to understand the "silver for silver" trend.
there’s more than a bit of personal experience in this message…
I think a swap can only be nice for both swappartners, if the value is more or less
equal, no matter the material.
What is the next step? 0.950 silver for 0.950 only? or 2 pieces of 0.500 for 1 of 0.950?
It will lead to nothing.
I suggest, before opening a swap, read the swappartners profile carefully.
Many times I get also this swaprequests for only silver or valuable coins,
with nothing serious to offer.
It is really boring and useless timeconsuming.
Quote: "yvon"I think a swap can only be nice for both swappartners, if the value is more or less
equal, no matter the material.
What is the next step? 0.950 silver for 0.950 only? or 2 pieces of 0.500 for 1 of 0.950?
It will lead to nothing.
I suggest, before opening a swap, read the swappartners profile carefully.
Many times I get also this swaprequests for only silver or valuable coins,
with nothing serious to offer.
It is really boring and useless timeconsuming.
What I do when I see a coin in someones swaplist, which I really like, and I realise my
swaplist is not sufficient, I offer to buy that coin, instead.
Quote: "GoldenGarfield"A lot of people on here with silver coins for swap insist on only swapping their silver for other silver coins. Frankly I don’t understand this from a collector’s point of view. As a stacker pure silver weight matters but as a collector I would gladly trade silver or even gold for a base metal of the same value.
Can someone else please weigh in on this?
I'm one of them. I use to say it because:
1. If someone asks me a common silver coin (e.g. Italy 500L caravels), I'm sure its numismatic value is very low because they are very very common. But because of this I can't swap them for copper or nichel made common coins at a 1:1 ratio: it makes no sense. Their value it's at least similar to the corresponding bullion value in my opinion. So how many common not-silver coins (value: 0,10-0,20€) are necessary to make an equal swap?
2. As someone already said this kind of request is also intended to warn partners that this particuliar coin is more valuable than the others.
3. I want to increase my silver collection. It makes no sense to swap silver vs non-precious metal and then when you find someone else who has silver coins of your interest you can't swap them because they swap "silver for silver".
4. In my country we say: " clear agreements, long friendship", so it's a good thing to explain our own rules before starting to swap in order to avoid surprises. So, in the same way, it's also good to write proof vs proof, CC vs CC or "special swap" as Frenchlover said.
Of course I'm not saying the rule "silver for silver" is absolutely correct and unquestionable: there are some non-precious metals coins which value it's higher than silver coins; and silver coins, especially those small and extremely damaged, sometimes have value close to zero.
Quote: "GoldenGarfield"So it’s less about actually exclusively swapping silver for silver and more about deterring swappers who think their coins are valuable enough to get silver…
This kind of thing exists on the paper side as well. I often trade 1000 baht notes that are exchanged at the bank for around US$30. It is amazing how many people want to trade one for one even though they only have notes worth US$0.50. Getting 30 to 50 notes for a 1000 baht is very possible except I have most of the cheap notes now. As many on this thread have already mentioned, its about value. I have thought about posting "warnings" on my profile, but it is just as easy to say no with a polite message.
If you have 1 or more copper coins of real value that equals the value of 1 of my silver coins, great! Unfortunately, many do not. I say silver for silver because if you have no silver, there is a very good chance you won't have anything near the value in base metal coins. 
