Kenya 40 Shillings 2003 KM#33

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Hi all, I see that in the coin page:

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces9264.html

theres is a year line with 2003 and a year line with "?", is this correct? What this year line means? I see a frequency of 33% of the owners of this coin have marked this year line with "?", can somebody explain that?

Regards, Oscar
Coin referee for: Andorra, Equatorial Guinea, Marshall Islands, Moldova, Liberia and Spain
Banknote referee for: Andorra, Equatorial Guinea and Spain
What that often means is there was another date line (selected by a bunch of people) which are later determine to be bogus. The line could have specified a year or variety that doesn't exist or a variation determined to be post-mint damage.

The bogus line was changed to "?". It will be changed if someone provides evidence another significant variation exits or removed if everyone removes ownership.
It was probably first entered as a ND = No Date! Then somebody decided to use the 2003 and got that line added, instead of changing to ND (2003).....
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
Quote: "Sjoelund"​It was probably first entered as a ND = No Date! Then somebody decided to use the 2003 and got that line added, instead of changing to ND (2003).....
​Hi, thanks for your answers. I think something similar to what Ole says must have happened, so I don't think there is any variant in this case. I think that some referee or administrator should pass all the users who have marked the line of "?" to 2003 (or ND 2003) and delete the line of the year "?", don't you think?
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Absolutely.

As such I'm against ND, since on most coins you find an end year or a period (from-to)!
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
Well, I suppose that once the comments have been made by some Numista users and seen by other users, this topic will be forgotten like many others that require actions by a referee or member of Numista ... thanks for your feedback answers.
I take this moment to thank all that this website offers us and the people who make all of this possible (users who do a fantastic job adding coins or varieties and banknotes to the catalog, referees without whose priceless effort make all this a wonderful reality, etc.), But, having said that, it seems obvious that something is not being done quite well, since there are countless things that remain pending in a limbo from which it is difficult to get out.
My best regards to everyone and stay safe, Oscar
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It really bothers me when I see listings with 'ND', yet the coin(s) concerned are clearly dated on the coin(s) themselves.

The Kenyan 2003 40 Shillings is clearly dated 2003, not 'ND (2003)'.

Aidan.
So the ? needs deleting then...?
Quote: "peterjhalford"​So the ? needs deleting then...?
​No, the coin is "dated" 2003, but is still a ND, so in the Gregorian year 2003 is very well and ND (2003) or 2003 (ND) as well.

I hate the ND as well, so if we canput a year and have that in the Gregorian year, it's good enough for me. What I hate even more is some Indian coins with a year on them, and then they are getting the Gregorian year of their emission (put into circulation) date, which is nowhere on the coin!
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
Quote: "peterjhalford"​So the ? needs deleting then...?


Yes, I think that the year line with "?" must be deleted, and all the owners must be moved to the year line "2003".
Coin referee for: Andorra, Equatorial Guinea, Marshall Islands, Moldova, Liberia and Spain
Banknote referee for: Andorra, Equatorial Guinea and Spain
yes, the ? line should be deleted. I agree.
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com

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