1849 Godless Florin is it real  ? [solved]

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the weight is 11.29g it has ww on the obverse my reasons for questioning is it looks really good condition
Topic moved to "Numismatic questions" (ZacUK, 11 Jun 2021, 20:49)
I truly hope it's real, because it has all the detail a real one should have (and what counterfeiters usually get wrong). However, the toning looks just like the toning I typically see on fakes. Thus, I'll answer your question with a question, what does it weigh?
Looks absolutely authentic to me. I can find nothing wrong with it anywhere.



I can only agree, I can not see any differences either
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Looks perfect to me the fake ones generally have the wrong serif for the 9 in the date
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on my scales which are accurate to within 0.02 they weigh 11.28 grams
Quote: "darrenscoins12"​on my scales which are accurate to within 0.02 they weigh 11.28 grams
​Given the weight and the photos, I would agree that it looks like the genuine article. (The coin in the Numista gallery weighs 11.316 g, but 11.28 is well within the expected range.) Apart from the "9" that has already been mentioned, other common fakes have a tell-tale "dot" on the obverse, in the field to the left of the bust. Happily your coin has neither.
Quote: "Offa"​Looks perfect to me the fake ones generally have the wrong serif for the 9 in the date
​Probably an amateur question - when the counterfeiters make a coin with so much precision, why did they get that one thing wrong ...wrong serif for the 9 in the date
Nobody is perfect:O
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I think its real but cleaned due to the haloing around the letters and numbers , nice details though
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Quote: "Offa"​Looks perfect to me the fake ones generally have the wrong serif for the 9 in the date
​​Probably an amateur question - when the counterfeiters make a coin with so much precision, why did they get that one thing wrong ...wrong serif for the 9 in the date
​it could have something to do with the country of origin as most fakes are from China
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Why do you talk about fakes?
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Quote: "Sjoelund"​Why do you talk about fakes?
​because my friend the godless florin is a heavily faked coin.
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What I meant is simply, why do YOU think it's a counterfeit?
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I didn’t I said I think it’s real because it has the correct serif 9 in the date.
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I'm pleased the weight matches; it makes me believe the coin is authentic.

Hello.

 

 

 

 

 

Please help me identify whether this 1849 British florin coin is genuine or counterfeit. 

 

I just bought it, but upon closer inspection, I discovered that the reverse is rotated 90 degrees relative to the obverse, although according to all sources (ru.ucoin.net, Numista), the avere-reverse ratio should be the coin's (180°). Is this possible on a genuine coin? The edge of the coin also looks strange – some spaces between the prongs are narrower, others wider. I've attached a photo. 

 

 

The coin's weight is slightly below the standard at 10.90 g. Otherwise, it has a beautiful, high relief and looks very good.

 

It was previously reported here that counterfeit florins have a distinctive dot on the obverse. Could you please find out where it should be located? 

 

Sincerely, Eduard.

Timbrimi

Hello.

 

 

 

 

 

Please help me identify whether this 1849 British florin coin is genuine or counterfeit. 

 

I just bought it, but upon closer inspection, I discovered that the reverse is rotated 90 degrees relative to the obverse, although according to all sources (ru.ucoin.net, Numista), the avere-reverse ratio should be the coin's (180°). Is this possible on a genuine coin? The edge of the coin also looks strange – some spaces between the prongs are narrower, others wider. I've attached a photo. 

 

 

The coin's weight is slightly below the standard at 10.90 g. Otherwise, it has a beautiful, high relief and looks very good.

 

It was previously reported here that counterfeit florins have a distinctive dot on the obverse. Could you please find out where it should be located? 

 

Sincerely, Eduard.

The dot is between the queen's eye and the last letter “I” in VICTORIA - and I think it is visible on your coin. Given the weight, die rotation, edge and dot, I would regard it as a fake. The “9” is 1849 is correct, but some fakes have just one of these features and some have both. Here is a photo of a fake with both:

Yes, my coin does indeed have a rather large raised dot in that spot. Unfortunately, I must admit that this coin is counterfeit. Thank you very much for your help.

 

Sincerely, Eduard.

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