Need to know owners of Cuban coins. [solved]

Hello.

I am investigating some Cuban coins, that I believe does not exist.

I would need to know registered owners of KM# 575.2, 5 Centavos, years:
2000, Variant small date: 46 owners,
2001, 84 owners,
2003, 25 owners,
2004, 44 owners, and
2007, 22 owners.

Thanks in advance for kind cooperation.

I sent you the names of the owners.

I've got 12 different coins from this type (https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces960.html) and 35 doubles but NONE of the mentioned dates. But again, proving a coin does exist is easy, however, proving a coin doesn't exist is very difficult.

When you look at the pictures on the coin page for the 2000 variants small/normal date, I think there's enough proof for the existence of the small date variant:

This is what I found on ucoins:

Dejan, that pictures doesn't convince me at all. That last digit looks like a 2 to me. Unfortunately the picture isn't sharp enough. And "Arabic numerals" on a Cuban coin? The first digit looks indeed a bit strange, but again, the picture is not sharp enough to see it clearly. The following digits are definitely not Arabic, so why should the first one be Arabic?

Quote: "Essor Prof"​Dejan, that pictures doesn't convince me at all. That last digit looks like a 2 to me. Unfortunately the picture isn't sharp enough. And "Arabic numerals" on a Cuban coin? The first digit looks indeed a bit strange, but again, the picture is not sharp enough to see it clearly. The following digits are definitely not Arabic, so why should the first one be Arabic?

​Arabic numerals are the ten digits: 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9.

Edit: As opposed to Roman Numerals. I found this quite interesting. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_numerals

So I was wrong, because the definition "Arabic numerals" is a bit confusing:



But of course, the "Arabic numerals" was just a side step. The main thing is about the actual date on Dejan's picture, which in my opinion still is a 2 and not a 7.

Quote: "Essor Prof"​So I was wrong, because the definition "Arabic numerals" is a bit confusing:
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​But of course, the "Arabic numerals" was just a side step. The main thing is about the actual date on Dejan's picture, which in my opinion still is a 2 and not a 7.

​It is a matter of colloquial talking, western set of numbers (1, 2, 3,...) are known as "arabic" cause of their origin, same as "roman" (I, II, III, ...) for their origin at ancient Rome. I agree, explanation in Numista page shown can be confuse.

And I also agree the picture from Ucoin is from a 2002 coin, not 2007, if you expand image is easier to notice last digit is more a "2" than a "7".

Quote: "adanieluy"​Hello.
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​I am investigating some Cuban coins, that I believe does not exist.
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​I would need to know registered owners of KM# 575.2, 5 Centavos, years:
​2000, Variant small date: 46 owners,
​2001, 84 owners,
​2003, 25 owners,
​2004, 44 owners, and
​2007, 22 owners.
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​Thanks in advance for kind cooperation.

​I do not own those years but I will try to search sites such as Ebay for Cuban coin lots because several months ago when I was searching for CUP Cuban coins I came across a lot from Europe that had Cuban coins and I swear that in the description it stated one of those years(listed above) for the 5 centavos CUC.


Anyway you should get into contact with some of the members who live in Cuba because they would have a better idea if those dates exist or not.🇨🇺

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Quote: "adanieluy"​Hello.
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​​I am investigating some Cuban coins, that I believe does not exist.
​​
​​I would need to know registered owners of KM# 575.2, 5 Centavos, years:
​​2000, Variant small date: 46 owners,
​​2001, 84 owners,
​​2003, 25 owners,
​​2004, 44 owners, and
​​2007, 22 owners.
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​​Thanks in advance for kind cooperation.

​​I do not own those years but I will try to search sites such as Ebay for Cuban coin lots because several months ago when I was searching for CUP Cuban coins I came across a lot from Europe that had Cuban coins and I swear that in the description it stated one of those years(listed above) for the 5 centavos CUC.
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​Anyway you should get into contact with some of the members who live in Cuba because they would have a better idea if those dates exist or not.🇨🇺

​Thank you.

I already contacted all the Cuban members who have registered those coins as owned.

As results of the investigation I made, I am convinced the versions of coins 2001, 2003, 2004 and 2007 do not exist, The members that replied my messages confirmed they don't have the coin, always was an error on registering or on reading the date.
The years 2001, 2003 and 2007 are listed on Krause catalog, but not on other 3 Cuban catalogs I have, and the 2004 is not listed on any of the 4.

I will insist on sending messages to members who have the coins registered, and will add comments about this fact. Most possible in future I will ask to be deleted the lines.