Deutsches Reich ≠ Third Reich [solved]

There are a number of coins where "Deutsches Reich" has been incorrectly translated as "Third Reich" instead of "German Empire." Can these be fixed? I think I found all of them.

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces1912.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces1918.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces1911.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces2341.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces1929.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces1928.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces7306.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces15867.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces3416.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces10415.html

Are we sure "Empire" is the right translation? Up to 1918 it makes sense but afterwards perhaps "Realm" is a better term? "Third Reich" is clearly wrong, though.

The official title Deutsches Reich didn't change until 1943 were it was changed to Großdeutsches Reich ( propagandistic and official in use since Austria's Anschluss in 1938).

Wikipedia:
In the Anglo-Saxon world, people still speak of the Third Reich or the German Reich. The English word Empire is considered inappropriate for a republic. That is why the term German Empire is avoided for the period after 1918, although the Weimar Constitution explicitly decrees in Art. 1 (1): "The German Reich is a republic".

If we don't use German Empire I would rather use German Reich instead of German Realm.

Quote: "Idolenz"​
​If we don't use German Empire I would rather use German Reich instead of German Realm.

​I'd be happy with that too. It's not as if this word isn't in use in English.

Near as I can tell there currently are four treatments for "Deutsches Reich" on a coin in Numista:
1. Translated as "Third Reich"
2. Translated as "German Emipire"
3. Translated as "German Reich"
4. Not translated

I'm OK with any of them (or something different) except for 1.

Quote: "rsirian1"​There are a number of coins where "Deutsches Reich" has been incorrectly translated as "Third Reich" instead of "German Empire." Can these be fixed? I think I found all of them.

​I think that Third Reich shouldn't be seen as translation of Deutsches Reich on the coin, but as the name that was used for the country at that time. As far as I'm concerned, it should be:

1871-1918: German Empire (Deutsches Kaiserreich)
1918-1933: Weimar Republic (Weimarer Republik)
1933-1945: Nazi-Germany (Nationalsozialistischer Staat)
1945-1949: Occupied Germany (Alliierte Besatzung)
1949-1990: West Germany (Bundesrepublik Deutschland)
1949-1990: East Germany (Deutsche Demokratische Republik)
1990-date: Germany (Bundesrepublik Deutschland)

If there are no objections, I'll put in CRs to change the translation "Third Reich" to "German Reich" for the above referenced coins.

Quote: "rsirian1"​If there are no objections, I'll put in CRs to change the translation "Third Reich" to "German Reich" for the above referenced coins.

We use the same names as the Krause catalog, so I don't really see why we should change it. German Reich is certainly not the way to go imho.

We're not talking about changing the name of the ruling authority, simply the translation of the words "Deutches Reich". "Third Reich" will still appear on the pages for all these coins.

Quote: "ceh2019"​We're not talking about changing the name of the ruling authority, simply the translation of the words "Deutches Reich". "Third Reich" will still appear on the pages for all these coins.

​I'm sorry, then I misunderstood the question in the first place. I thought it was about the Period. Mea culpa!

Just so there's no confusion, this is what the change will be:

“The third reich” would be “das dritte reich” in German if I’m not mistaken. The coins say “Deutsches reich” which means “German empire”.

This was my submission a few months ago.
Check the comments section.
here

Not a fan of general comments not concerning the specific page item. If the name doesn't change this would be better suited in the country description.

In the features box - it says
Period Third Reich (1933-1945) - hence the comment.

Yes, so you would have to add this comment for each and every entry of this period.
But like I said that's my opinion.

Quote: "Idolenz"​Yes, so you would have to add this comment for each and every entry of this period.
​But like I said that's my opinion.

​I guess that is for the senior management team to decide.

Quote: "GoldenGarfield"​“The third reich” would be “das dritte reich” in German if I’m not mistaken. The coins say “Deutsches reich” which means “German empire”.

​I think the German would be 'Das Dreite Reich' for 'Third Reich'.

The word 'Reich' actually means 'Realm'.

Aidan.

Quote: "BCNumismatics"​

Quote: "GoldenGarfield"​“The third reich” would be “das dritte reich” in German if I’m not mistaken. The coins say “Deutsches reich” which means “German empire”.

​​I think the German would be 'Das Dreite Reich' for 'Third Reich'.
​
​The word 'Reich' actually means 'Realm'.
​
​Aidan.

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google translate uses ‘dritte’. You are right about ‘reich’ meaning ‘realm’ though.

German Realm

Quote: "BluHawk"

Quote: "Idolenz"​Yes, so you would have to add this comment for each and every entry of this period.
​​But like I said that's my opinion.

​​I guess that is for the senior management team to decide.

​i agree with Idolenz. This is also covered in the guidelines already:
https://en.numista.com/numisdoc/articles/catalogue_guidelines.php#comments

Generic info about the issuer should not be added to the comments unless it only applies specifically to that particular coin type.

Always a good idea to follow rules.