What are the differences between the 1st type (1999-2006) and the 2nd type (2007-date) versions of these coins, other than the obvious mint mark change.
The types 2007- have the abbreviation FI for the country name added to the design. It may look like 'just a mintmark', but it isn't. It's a structural change to the design to add the country indication.
There was some decree from the ECB around 2006-2007 that the national sides of euro coins should bear an indication of the country, which was not the case for some national sides in the intial euro series. Some countries that didn't comply just added a standard abbreviation, like FI for Finland, or BE for Belgium.
Till date, only the regular circulation euro series from Germany and Greece don't bear any indication of the country at all. New commemorative German euros have a D somewhere (again not to mistake for a mintmark), new commerative Greek euros have ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΗ ΔΗΜΟΚΡΑΤΙΑ on them.
Austrian coins have the national flag on them. Colourless and indistinguishable, but apparently sufficient to serve as a country indicator as well.
I'd like to add some more information to this discussion. Actually, I would like to add something to Ole Sjoelund's comments also. Regarding Finnish euro coins, we have M mint mark (as Raimo Makkonen) on 1999-2006 coins, the cornucopia mint mark on 2007-2010 coins and lion stamp on 2011- coins. 2007 coins have the cornucopia mint mark on different place (it should be at 9 o'clock), but there should be a mint mark on 2007 coins also, meaning there is not a type without mint mark! That information is from our own catalog.
The mint mark is the difference and there should be 3 different types.
Topic moved to "Numismatic questions"(ZacUK, 20 Dec 2020, 21:01)
Quote: "Ollisaarinen"I'd like to add some more information to this discussion. Actually, I would like to add something to Ole Sjoelund's comments also. Regarding Finnish euro coins, we have M mint mark (as Raimo Makkonen) on 1999-2006 coins, the cornucopia mint mark on 2007-2010 coins and lion stamp on 2011- coins. 2007 coins have the cornucopia mint mark on different place (it should be at 9 o'clock), but there should be a mint mark on 2007 coins also, meaning there is not a type without mint mark! That information is from our own catalog.
The mint mark is the difference and there should be 3 different types.
Hi,
that's all correct, but the cornucopia on the 2007 is left of the year and NOT under the hilt of the sword (4 types)?
I have changed the documentation as you can see here. Do you agree with the this?
Quote: "Sjoelund"I have changed the documentation as you can see here. Do you agree with the this?
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I think I read somewhere that the Mint of Finland will not be producing the circulation coins any more as from next year. But I can't remember where I read it. Would be taken over by Suomen Moneta who also produced the commemorative €2 for the last two years ...
I anyone up north can confirm this, the documentation should read 2011-2020 for the fourth subtype (please also change it in the title of the documentation) and we might expect a fifth one in 2021 with a new mintmark ...
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No new swaps for the moment, still too many half-ongoing swaps to clean up!
No problem with your documentation Ole except for the reference number. Only Krause-Mishler can assign a KM reference number to a coin type or sub type. That's the strength of the KM reference number, a certain KM# number is exactly the same coin all over the world. That whole system falls to pieces when websites or companies or whatever start assigning KM# numbers on their own.
And I know, the whole KM future is still very uncertain, but for now the best thing to do is wait and see a bit longer.
Yes, now the picture looks fine, thank you. Here is some information regarding Finnish euro coins in the future: "The Finnish Ministry of Finance has entered into an agreement with Nordic Moneta for the production and sale of Finnish commemorative coins, as well as for the sale of Finnish coin series and two-euro special coins."
I'm sorry to reopen this topic, but I don't understand why all the Finland Euro coins since 2007 have the letters "FI" where the mintmark should go, when I think it had been commented that FI was indicative of the country (Finland). Can someone explain it to me? Isn't the section after the date exclusive for the mintmark in case this is a letter? Thank you for your clarifications.
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National identifying marks of euro coins
As per a recommendation defined by the 'Economic and Financial Affairs Council of the European Union',
the national designs of each member's euro coin should contain a national identification in the form
of spelling or abbreviation of the country's name.
Quote: "ZacUK" Here it is, near the top of the page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identifying_marks_on_euro_coins
National identifying marks of euro coins
As per a recommendation defined by the 'Economic and Financial Affairs Council of the European Union',
the national designs of each member's euro coin should contain a national identification in the form
of spelling or abbreviation of the country's name.
Thanks for your answer ZacUK, but the subject you are explaining to me has already become clear to me, FI is the identification of the country, it is NOT the mintmark and why is it in the place of the mintmark in each year line?
By this rule, in many German coins since 2007, the letter D of Deutschland should be put and in many of Belgium the BE of Belgique. That's what I don't understand, if they aren't mintmark why are they in the mintmark place?
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