Madagascar 20 Ariary FAO or not [solved]

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Hi,

There are a number of these coins with different Mottos, yet some are classed as FAO and others not

1978 20 Ariary Motto A is classed as FAO
1983 20 Ariary Motto A is not
1992 20 Ariary Motto A is not
1004 20 Ariary Motto B is classed as FAO

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces10559.html

The wording is different for each motto but the image is the same. So if it is the wording that deems it FAO then either all Motto A's are FAo or they are not?

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Stewart

Agreed that this should be made coherent. I can either add FAO everywhere or remove it.

 

What is thus the definition of a FAO coin? Having agricultural pictures doesn't make a coin an FAO one, right? For instance, the said series is not mentioned as FAO in the World coin.

I found a site dedicated to FAO coins, which has a copy of a 1973 article.

 

It says that coins recognized by the FAO office are FAO coins, and that coins with the same deigns in different years aren't always FAO coins, so marking similar coins with the same text isn't the correct approach.

Does the FAO maintain a list of their coins? What better authority then the source.

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Some_Nerd

Does the FAO maintain a list of their coins? What better authority then the source.

Couldn't find a list on their site although there are articles discussing FAO coins of various countries.

 

https://www.fao.org/home/en/ 

I have the FAO international catalog.  Would this be useful?

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On page 180 of the FAO Coins International Catalog, there is listed for 20 Ariary of Madagascar:

 

1978 FAO 20 ariary

1983 FAO 20 ariary

1992 FAO 20 ariary

1994 FAO 20 ariary

1999 FAO 20 ariary

 

This is the world FAO catalog.  Published in Europe.

 

It has all the FAO coinage of the world.

 

At one time we had hoped, another FAO collector and I, that we could use this volume to identify all of the FAO coins in Numista, but that didnt seem possible since national referees have the power of declining edits.  Is this something that could be revisited?

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Oklahoman

 

At one time we had hoped, another FAO collector and I, that we could use this volume to identify all of the FAO coins in Numista, but that didnt seem possible since national referees have the power of declining edits.  Is this something that could be revisited?

If the catalogue has reference number, couldn't those be added?  + the FAO tag is also available 

 

I see no reason those ditsy should be rejected for any reason…

Just call me Bram

No new swaps for the moment, still too many half-ongoing swaps to clean up!

National referees approve edits, and some do not wish to.  

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Oklahoman

National referees approve edits, and some do not wish to.  

The appeal process has worked well for me. (Not always fast, but the goal is improvement not speed.)

Oklahoman

On page 180 of the FAO Coins International Catalog, there is listed for 20 Ariary of Madagascar:

 

1978 FAO 20 ariary

1983 FAO 20 ariary

1992 FAO 20 ariary

1994 FAO 20 ariary

1999 FAO 20 ariary

 

This is the world FAO catalog.  Published in Europe.

So, we need some harmonisation. I can do that for the 20 Ariary coin. But what is the recommendation? 

  • Add FAO to the title (for all of them)?
  • Add them to the FAO series (for all of them)?

FYI, Kreuze use the 2nd way to categorise them.

Hi, 

I'd go for the 2nd as it is part of a series. 

 

Oklahomaman, do you pay the delivery costs for that book😳 ita half the cost of the book. He is still selling it on ebay

I paid it because I wanted it that badly.  It is a heavy duty book.  Seems very durable.  He even gave me some FAO coins with it .

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Shadoko

Oklahoman

On page 180 of the FAO Coins International Catalog, there is listed for 20 Ariary of Madagascar:

 

1978 FAO 20 ariary

1983 FAO 20 ariary

1992 FAO 20 ariary

1994 FAO 20 ariary

1999 FAO 20 ariary

 

This is the world FAO catalog.  Published in Europe.

So, we need some harmonisation. I can do that for the 20 Ariary coin. But what is the recommendation? 

  • Add FAO to the title (for all of them)?
  • Add them to the FAO series (for all of them)?

FYI, Kreuze use the 2nd way to categorise them.

Any recommendation? I wouldn't like to make a move in one direction and then to <Ctrl>-Z it!

If the coin commemorate FAO, then it should have that in the title.

 

If it is FAO series (depicting/comemmorating various food related stuff, FAO serie would be nice solution)

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Jarcek

If the coin commemorate FAO, then it should have that in the title.

 

If it is FAO series (depicting/comemmorating various food related stuff, FAO serie would be nice solution)

+1 :-)

 

Do you have all ansxers needed to do the work?

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Jarcek

If the coin commemorate FAO, then it should have that in the title.

 

If it is FAO series (depicting/comemmorating various food related stuff, FAO serie would be nice solution)

+1 :-)

 

Do you have all ansxers needed to do the work?

No. What the difference between a coin “commemorating FAO” and “FAO series”. For instance, I have a change request for this coin N#10559 

1) The word FAO doesn't appear anywhere

2) It is commemorating various food related stuff and is already a FAO series.

Thus, I don't see the need to change?

In this case it should be FAO series imo (cf Jarek suggestion above)

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