Grading of a damaged coin [solved]

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Hello

I recently got a coin from a friend, a 1932 1 pice coin from the kingdom of tonk...i found it on numista's catalogue but i had some problem grading it as it has a hole in the center,so i was hoping to get advice on this issue...the coin itself is in perfect condition (the lettering and lustre) but a small hole was made by someone, kindly help me grade the coin.

Thanks!
Numist007 :-)
We would need a picture to help you grade a coin.
If a coin has a hole that doesn't blong on it I put it in the lowest grade possible at the moment it is G
Quote: "jimpop"​We would need a picture to help you grade a coin.
​He's already posted pictures over here:
https://en.numista.com/forum/topic76714.html

Personally I don't believe in dropping coins down a grade or two because of a hole, but your coin is pretty beat up anyway even ignoring the hole, so VG at best for me.
Damage outside of normal circulation wear doesn't affect a coin's grade. It should be noted separately.

For example a VF coin with environmental damage or a hole doesn't become a F or VG coin, it's VF (corrosion) or VF (holed). The impact of damage is on the price, not the grade.
Non illegitimis carborundum est.  Excellent advice for all coins.
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Exactly, grading of circulated coins is about the degree of wear. Everything else should be noted separately. A VF+ or VF 30 silver coin remains a VF+ or VF 30 coin even if it was cleaned or holed or damaged in any other way. The value of a holed coin is of course greatly affected by the hole. Would you rather have an XF holed coin or the same in VF grade? I suppose we would all go for the VF coin, so the value of a holed coin is well below half the value of a problem-free coin of the same grade.

If the hole is right in the center (unless it's part of the design of course), in my view the coin is worthless as a collector's item unless it's very scarce. I might consider acquiring rare colonial tokens in that condition, but at a fraction of their catalogue value.
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Quote: "jimpop"​We would need a picture to help you grade a coin.
​​He's already posted pictures over here:
https://en.numista.com/forum/topic76714.html

​Personally I don't believe in dropping coins down a grade or two because of a hole, but your coin is pretty beat up anyway even ignoring the hole, so VG at best for me.
​Thank you for your response.
Quote: "Camerinvs"​Exactly, grading of circulated coins is about the degree of wear. Everything else should be noted separately. A VF+ or VF 30 silver coin remains a VF+ or VF 30 coin even if it was cleaned or holed or damaged in any other way. The value of a holed coin is of course greatly affected by the hole. Would you rather have an XF holed coin or the same in VF grade? I suppose we would all go for the VF coin, so the value of a holed coin is well below half the value of a problem-free coin of the same grade.

​If the hole is right in the center (unless it's part of the design of course), in my view the coin is worthless as a collector's item unless it's very scarce. I might consider acquiring rare colonial tokens in that condition, but at a fraction of their catalogue value.
​Yeah right,but i got it for free and anyways i don't collect coins for their monetary value.
Thanks for your response
Quote: "numist007"​​​Yeah right,but i got it for free and anyways i don't collect coins for their monetary value.
​Thanks for your response
​Same here.

I find interesting to see the name "Jaarj" (« جارج » upside down at the bottom of the second picture). That's one possible spelling in Urdu or Persian for "George", i.e. King George V.
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are this still consider `G` of VERY POOR
Quote: "Amin1983shahrul"
​are this still consider `G` of VERY POOR
​This is a rather common coin, right? If so, I wouldn't even bother with the grade. I would just describe it as "damaged" or "cull", especially if I were selling or swapping it.

The picture is blurry (and it would be useful to see the reverse), but I suppose it would grade as VG, damaged. Note that the lower grades on the scale are G / AG / Fair / Poor.
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Egyptian Eyalet para :
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces90712.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces68417.html

Ottoman coins are often find holed : it's due to an ancient wedding tradition in the Ottoman Empire.
Value doesn't really decrease in this case.
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