Denár - I. Lajos, the Great 1342-1382 what grade and value ?

Hi,
can you help me to value this coin ? Is it a XF ? Its much better in hand and its shining.
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces33816.html

what a pity, it looks overcleaned...

Quote: "PetrusAscanus"​what a pity, it looks overcleaned...

​Get it from a trusted seller, there is nothing about cleaning on his page. Ancient coins I get only from trusted sellers.

Quote: "doc_man"​

Quote: "PetrusAscanus"​what a pity, it looks overcleaned...

​​Get it from a trusted seller, there is nothing about cleaning on his page. Ancient coins I get only from trusted sellers.

​The coin has hairlines and markings of being cleaned.

It's very hard to grade medieval hammered coins on the Sheldon scale, in my opinion it's better to just use "eye appeal". On a Sheldon scale XF would be "above average", I collect Hungarian hammered denars and in my opinion this is a average coin from that time so if I had to grade it I'd say VF.

As for value these usually go for around 20$, the cleaning doesn't effect it's value too much although if it had a nice patina it would increase it. If you won't keep it and wish to swap it check my swap list and see if I have anything you like.

For its age it is in a rather very very good state.
Mine is in a rather lesser state, I paid €20.
For yours, I would pay much more....

Thank you all for your comments ,im pretty newbie for such old coins so thank you very much again for your support. I collect coins mainly african and middle east coins as well as commemorative coins. I also search one per country. I already have Hungarian coin and Hungarian state so this will go to the swaplist. The question is what will be the good swap/sell value for you guys who are interested in this coin. I hate overpricing coins and would like to provide a fair value. I was checking this site :
http://katalogus.numismatics.hu/index.php/cPath/31_38_40/sort/6a/page/5
but im still unsure about fair price.

I also believe that for such old coin the grade is fantastic if i compare to my parvus coin . Many many thanks guy I appreciate

@Cro321 i have checked your swaplist didnt found anything for me. You have Roman coins i miss but they are easy to get here that is why i still dont have that country. Was counting that my pisidia coin ( which now is Arykanda) will be a roman province but it seems that is greek one and i already have an ancient greece.

Quote: "doc_man"​Thank you all for your comments ,im pretty newbie for such old coins so thank you very much again for your support. I collect coins mainly african and middle east coins as well as commemorative coins. I also search one per country. I already have Hungarian coin and Hungarian state so this will go to the swaplist. The question is what will be the good swap/sell value for you guys who are interested in this coin. I hate overpricing coins and would like to provide a fair value. I was checking this site :
​http://katalogus.numismatics.hu/index.php/cPath/31_38_40/sort/6a/page/5
​but im still unsure about fair price.

​That page is some kind of coin store. Personally I never got anything from there but as far as I can tell it's overpriced (like most official coin stores are). I'd suggest looking at http://www.vatera.hu/listings/index.php?q=i+lajos+denar&c=0&warn=1 for real market values, you'll find many coins like yours on that link.

Quote: "cro321"​

Quote: "doc_man"​Thank you all for your comments ,im pretty newbie for such old coins so thank you very much again for your support. I collect coins mainly african and middle east coins as well as commemorative coins. I also search one per country. I already have Hungarian coin and Hungarian state so this will go to the swaplist. The question is what will be the good swap/sell value for you guys who are interested in this coin. I hate overpricing coins and would like to provide a fair value. I was checking this site :
​​http://katalogus.numismatics.hu/index.php/cPath/31_38_40/sort/6a/page/5
​​but im still unsure about fair price.

​ ​That page is some kind of coin store. Personally I never got anything from there but as far as I can tell it's overpriced (like most official coin stores are). I'd suggest looking at http://www.vatera.hu/listings/index.php?q=i+lajos+denar&c=0&warn=1 for real market values, you'll find many coins like yours on that link.

​Many thanks ! Will check that website !