2 Stuiver Dutch Republic West Frisia KM#106 1768/7 [solved]

Hello,

I bought this silver 2 stuiver West Frisia coin. If I'm correct, the 8 is minted over a 7. So the correct year would be 1768/7. This year isn't existing in the catalog at this moment.



Is it possible to add this coin?

Gr.

Michael

It looks like you are right. Unfortunately, in Krause there is no overstrike for this coin in 1768:


Of course, that doesn't mean this coin doesn't exist. Is there anybody with a specific Dutch catalog for this period to verify this?

That is one nice overstrike - congrats

Here is another 2 Stuiver West Frisia 1768/7:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/COA-Silver-Overdate-1768-67-Dutch-Colonial-New-York-Lion-Dime-West-Frisia-Mint-/391502158621

So I guess it won't be a problem to add this overdate to our catalog.

Thank you Edduns!

@Essor prof: Thank you for looking in to the Krause catalog. Hopefully someone has a Specific Dutch catalog with this strike in it.

Quote: "Essor Prof"​Here is another 2 Stuiver West Frisia 1768/7:
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​http://www.ebay.com/itm/COA-Silver-Overdate-1768-67-Dutch-Colonial-New-York-Lion-Dime-West-Frisia-Mint-/391502158621
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​So I guess it won't be a problem to add this overdate to our catalog.

If only I was born rich instead of good looking. Ha Ha ​

Ah nice to see another one. I only payed around 5/6 Euro for the coin, which is pretty normal for a common 2 Stuiver coin. It could be worth more looking at the price on ebay.

Michael, maybe you can write a message to MooieMuntjes.nl (http://www.mooiemuntjes.nl/index.php?page=9&ipp=8&id=2&p_ID=2&provincie=9&order=product_ID)
They seem to have a lot of West Frisia coins, so maybe they have a proper catalog to check if the 1768/7 is in it.
I see them in person in September in Houten, maybe I can ask it then.

Thanks for the advice. I've sent him an email about this coin.
I will let you know if I recieved an answer.

I just got his reaction. The coin is known in the catalogues van de Nederlandse Munten (CNM) (Dutch Coin Catalogue).

This specific overstrike is more rare then others, but is does exist.

Is this enough information to get it added?

That was a quick reaction. But I know they are very friendly and helpful people.

Pictures of two different coins and a mentioning in the Dutch Coin Catalog. That must be sufficient.
I think the quickest way is to write a message to the referee with a link to this forum topic because the year lines are locked so you can't make a change request on your own.

Yes it was! Thank you for your reaction. I will sent a message to the referee.

I also added two Dutch Republic Coins to the catalogue today.
-1 Duit 1617 Deventer (DAVEN/TRIA)
-1 Duit 1644 Kampen (CAM/PEN)

Hopefully they will get an oke soon and be visuele for others too.

Thanks for contributing these nice coins to the catalogue! I also added the overstrike you requested.

A couple of months ago I wrote a topic about the history and coinage of the Dutch Republic: https://en.numista.com/forum/topic59275.html

I am actually in the process of writing the article for the Netherlands as well

Cheers,
Jokinen

Thank you Jokinen! I also read your article for the Dutch Republic, very nice. I am currently focussing on the Republic and the Netherlands as my home country. The period is very hard to identify. There were many city's who had the right to mint there own coins. Some of those, were Habsburg during the Republic period and conquered during it.

I live in Deventer, a city who have minted there own coins. Deventer was connected with the Habsburg empire during the Republic period. Some coins are minted on the name of the German emperor. You could discuss if the coin should be added to the Spanish (Habsburg) Netherlands or the Dutch Republic.

Its a very interesting period in Europe.

Thank you for adding this specific year. I will set this topic as solved.

It's quite a complex history indeed. I wrote more related articles:

Low Countries Feudal:
https://en.numista.com/forum/topic60184.html

Burgundian Netherlands:
https://en.numista.com/forum/topic59438.html

Spanish Netherlands:
https://en.numista.com/forum/topic59609.html

Quote: "Michaelw90"​
​I live in Deventer, a city who have minted there own coins. Deventer was connected with the Habsburg empire during the Republic period. Some coins are minted on the name of the German emperor. You could discuss if the coin should be added to the Spanish (Habsburg) Netherlands or the Dutch Republic.

​Those Deventer coins were in name of Holy Roman Emperor Ferdinand II. The King of Spain at that time was Philip III, son of Philip II. Philip II was a cousin of Ferdinand II.

Yes, and also in name of Mattias I as emperor of the Holy Roman Empire. It was a mistake to say German emperor.