That's an old brothel token the word 'CENT' is modified into "CUNT" The procedure was to pay the 'madam' the amount of cash and receive a Token. The 'girl' (prostitute) would take the Tokens from the customer and at the end of the evening she would return the tokens to the 'madam'. The token prevented the 'girls' from handling money directly. This coin was used as the Token.
At the bottom of a page of any country, you have a "add it yourself" link to create a new coin sheet.
You fill it as good as you can, call it "5 CUNT brothel token", country Token, currency Token United States (I hate the idea of Merchandise Token for that, so just leave it in the more general section , as much info as possible, load the pics as good as possible with your pseudo as source, put the little story Myeackle told us as comment, and validate !
I, or any team member, will check it and validate.
Then you have a coin added listed on your profile.
Thanks in advance in behalf of all users who'll benefit from the addition !
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This coin has the coolest story I've seen on Numista so far behind it, it should definitely be added to the catalogue.
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Quote: "Ecapoe"Hi,
Would be interesting to add to our catalogue !
I first saw this coin in the Numista catalog! I swear I didn't dream it. I remember thinking "how cool is that??" I'm going to add that to my wish list later" but when I tried to find it again it had vanished. This was maybe a year or more ago.
Non illegitimis carborundum est. Excellent advice for all coins.
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Quote: "Ecapoe"Right. Well spotted ! He still has it
Maybe worth checking with US referee but I still think it is worth adding it as such and as brothel token. Even if it is a modified real coin.
Moreover, in the cents year list, it does not show up as a variety (which it is not).
I can't believe this. Today I received 13 coins won at an auction over the weekend and it is just now that I noticed something special. Among the coins was a low grade 1843 US large cent which I got for CDN $3.55 = US $2.65:
Quote: "Camerinvs"I can't believe this. Today I received 13 coins won at an auction over the weekend and it is just now that I noticed something special. Among the coins was a low grade 1843 US large cent which I got for CDN $3.55 = US $2.65:
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I'm sure you can see why I posted it here...
You lucky cent!
Non illegitimis carborundum est. Excellent advice for all coins.
Make Numismatics Great Again!
English not being my first language, I had to google "lucky cunt" and also asked a colleague here about it. I now understand that it is OK to use it among certain social classes in the UK and the southern hemisphere (Australia-NZ) but not in America. Interesting.
I have worked for several years weekends at a coin/jewelry shop here in Florida. We have come across several of these over the years. We have always just considered them to be "mutilated" jokester coins and thrown them into the junk box. I have also seen a couple of Flying Eagles with the same treatment. In the future, if another shows up it will be treated with a little more "respect."
I've seen quite a few over the years in the midwest. I find it difficult to believe that they are anything more than the work of adolescent vandals with a penny, a pocket knife and an idle thought.
Hello everyone ..... With respect to everyone here.... As Living in India, where we are struggling to create awareness towards Respect for women, there equal rights ...... It's makes me deeply sadden to see this post.
We look towards West, were we believe that women have equal rights as men, live Respectfully . But here on numista a coin which is intentionally modified to shame women, is discussed with joy and also added to its catalogue . Should we ask ourselves is Numista is 18+ hobby site. Should we ask our little girls and boys to collect coins and join numista???? Should intentionally modified coins which make fun or disrespect others are added to catalogue.
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I'm skeptical of the provenance of most of these. Possibly there were actual brothel tokens modified in such a manner, but the whole thing strikes me as such an apocryphal bit of "Wild West" mythology. How would you know that one is authentic (if indeed there are such things) and not modified much more recently by someone who heard the story? Certainly makes it easier to get a better price for a low grade or common date cent!
Are we headed to a path were our goal is to create a reputable coin catalogue which will help coin collectors all over the world, which is responsible Respectable to all, or a Just another site with disputed unauthentic information.....
It's so sad to see how quickly this disputed pice of metal is authenticated by moderators and added to the catalogue, where as a genuine coin, token takes days, months to get authorized, checked with many reminders to referees to get added to catalogue .
IS this freedom of exexpression or a disrespect to a country, when we see a coin with one side written with pride United States of America and on other side a lady with a crown engraved Liberty.... is SHE ONE C*NT.... ???????
With all the respect I disagree. Coins are coins , tokens are tokens. Its a part of a history. All of it. Not just what you want to be a part of a history. All of it is.
It is of course true that such alterations are easy to fake. At the same time, though, many of the hosts are large cents from the 1850s, i.e. from the final decade of the large cents, so it may well be that it was done in the 1860s─1890s when, I suppose, most of the large cents had disappeared from circulation. It seems to happen quite often that when coins become obsolete, they start to be used as tokens of some sort, hence the many coins with just a number or letter stamped on them. Many such numbers and letters are made in an amateurish way, for example straight line punches put together to make a "4" or an "A" or an "H" (examples of all of which were discussed on Numista). They may have been used as weights, entrance tickets, proofs of payment, etc. Other obsolete coins and tokens were nailed above doors for good luck, hence the squarish hole that many of them have.
My coin (pictures above ↑↑↑) was altered before it got lost since the alteration E→U is corroded just like the rest of the coin. It may have been a brothel token, or just a bad joke, for sure, but that was a hundred years ago or more.
It is interesting to look at these things from a historical perspective. While a single coin may not be telling much, once you know that tens of thousands of coins were countermarked or altered in some other way, you can start looking for patterns. As Greg Brunk (the author of the "bible" on countermarked coins) pointed out, those countermarked (or altered) coins have stories to tell. We may not always like the story, but we shouldn't rewrite the past to our liking. We have sex jokes going back to the Greeks and the Romans. On their slingshot balls, they sometimes had inscriptions such as "Take that, c*cks*ck*r!"
Quote: "arvin11"Hello everyone ..... With respect to everyone here.... As Living in India, where we are struggling to create awareness towards Respect for women, there equal rights ...... It's makes me deeply sadden to see this post.
We look towards West, were we believe that women have equal rights as men, live Respectfully . But here on numista a coin which is intentionally modified to shame women, is discussed with joy and also added to its catalogue . Should we ask ourselves is Numista is 18+ hobby site. Should we ask our little girls and boys to collect coins and join numista???? Should intentionally modified coins which make fun or disrespect others are added to catalogue.
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Pardon my choice of words, but there's no need to be a blushing, squeamish conservative over this issue! I personally don't find anything offensive in the token, but I understand how others might; But there are plenty of coins and tokens already on Numista that could be constructed as offensive to different persons/groups, but likewise with Confederate flags and monuments, offensive things displayed with proper context (i.e. in a museum, or a coin catalogue) are no longer offensive.
Are we headed to a path were our goal is to create a reputable coin catalogue which will help coin collector all over the world, which is responsible Respectable to all, or a Just another site with disputed unaunthic information.....
It's so sad to see how quickly this disputed pice of metal is authenticated by moderator and added to the catalogue, where as a genuine coin, token takes days, months to get authorized, checked with many reminders to get added to catalogue .
IS this freedom of exexpression or a disrespect to a country, when we see a coin with one side written with pride United States of America and on other side a lady with a crown engraved Liberty.... is SHE ONE C*NT.... ???????
Quote: "arvin11"Hello everyone ..... With respect to everyone here.... As Living in India, where we are struggling to create awareness towards Respect for women, there equal rights ...... It's makes me deeply sadden to see this post.
We look towards West, were we believe that women have equal rights as men, live Respectfully . But here on numista a coin which is intentionally modified to shame women, is discussed with joy and also added to its catalogue . Should we ask ourselves is Numista is 18+ hobby site. Should we ask our little girls and boys to collect coins and join numista???? Should intentionally modified coins which make fun or disrespect others are added to catalogue.
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I have coins of Germany, with swastika, but that does not mean I support or admire the nazism of that crazy dictator. I have coins of North L
Korea, but I do not like the political regime of their ruler(s)
Non est totum quod splendet ut aurum
Rijkdom bestaat niet uit het hebben van veel bezittingen, maar in het hebben van weinig behoeften
Hello Arvin11, since you asked about the "lady with a crown engraved Liberty .... is SHE ONE C*NT.... ???????", I would reply that the reverse legend is not a reference to her. If you push your argument to its full logic, you would need to say that she is worth no more than a penny on unaltered coins.
If you want to see a real joke in the catalogue, have a look at the washers and tooled metal disks linked here. If there is anything embarrassing in the catalogue, that has got to be it. It is a reflection of how little some people around here know about the striking (or casting) process to make coins.
Now, I do agree that women in India have gone through, and continue to go through, very difficult times. Gang raping is punished with a slap on the wrist; acid attacks are not reported because the woman is perceived as having shamed her family by holding her ground; etc. etc. Hopefully, worldwide indignation at these crimes and at the patriarchal justice system will help to change things.
Thank you Sir Camerinvs.....
I Have a proud feeling to be associated with numista. I truly believe it should be a site which make a benchmark, set standards to identify coins, token. It should be responsible, Respectable forum.
But things like this is very sad. My son is * year old... I had a thought that when he we be older, together we will share our coin collection and I will introduce him to numista, but with this situation where a coin is intentionally modified, a coin of a country which is known for democracy, freedom and rights, a coin issue by official Government is shamed like this wilth a made up story which did not have any reliable source is proudly added in catalog, are we up to numbers or Quality? Extremely Sorry but, the best coin identifiers are here in this topic, but No body opposed this wrongdoing.
May be I am wrong , it's a cultural differences.... As most people do not find this wrong.
, as much info as possible, load the pics as good as possible with your pseudo as source, put the little story Myeackle told us as comment, and validate !
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