Hello all. I have a 1979 U.S. proof set that I would like to swap. It has 1, 5, 10, 25, and 50 cent plus the 1 dollar coin. All with the S mint mark, and encased within a plastic displayable case inside a heavy paper jacket. Coins and case are in great shape, however the paper jacket has some dings. I would like to swap it for a similar set from another country or something interesting. I prefer to swap with someone from the U.S., Canada, the U.K. or France. PM me with questions or offers.
Quote: ctuckerHello all. I have a 1979 U.S. proof set that I would like to swap. It has 1, 5, 10, 25, and 50 cent plus the 1 dollar coin. All with the S mint mark, and encased within a plastic displayable case inside a heavy paper jacket. Coins and case are in great shape, however the paper jacket has some dings. I would like to swap it for a similar set from another country or something interesting. I prefer to swap with someone from the U.S., Canada, the U.K. or France. PM me with questions or offers.
Quote: ctucker this will give you an idea. I'll have to add a better picture later. ( My woman ran off to a wedding with my camera.)
Sounds like a line from a country song.
I've got a few proof sets, I don't really collect them... I just like to look at them. Never been sure whether to introduce myself as a collector or a hoarder.
If you don't already have an offer on this set then feel free to take a look at my updated swap list. I've added a few coins since last we spoke which fall into your collecting realm, a 1907 10 pfennig etc. As a rough guide the proof set sells for around $8 on eBay.
Quote: pnightingaleAs a rough guide the proof set sells for around $8 on eBay.
They retail for more here in the UK, I should expect to pay RETAIL about £10 which is what, about $16 US. Of course it does depend, and the photo image is quite indistinct.
Quote: pnightingaleAs a rough guide the proof set sells for around $8 on eBay.
They retail for more here in the UK, I should expect to pay RETAIL about £10 which is what, about $16 US. Of course it does depend, and the photo image is quite indistinct.
Matt
Pretty much the same story here Matt, except reversed of course. UK sets attract much better prices on eBay.com, although by the time you take into account the extra 4 or 5 quid for postage the difference is marginal unless you are buying in bulk from the UK.
I have also been noticing that business strike year sets and slabbed coins are more expensive than the equivalent proof sets. The US sets vary in price a lot too, the SBA $ is not popular but JFK half dollars remain in favour, commanding a high premium. Strange thing though, I can get them for face value at the bank. A friendly head teller will often order a roll if they don't have any in the vault. Same thing with the IKE dollars. I use them for tips, you would think it was a gold eagle. It's nice to be able to make some hard working waitress's day.
H & KN mintmarked coins are outrageously overpriced. Unless things have changed in the 11 years since I left, these can be picked up for a few pence, maybe a pound or so, at collectors fairs and car boot sales in England.
In short, Florida is a great place to collect world coins, there are large ex-pat communities all along the Gulf Coast and the cruise ships sailfrom the West Indies to Tampa. For collectors of UK coins though is not so good.
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Quote: pnightingaleIn short, Florida is a great place to collect world coins, there are large ex-pat communities all along the Gulf Coast and the cruise ships sailfrom the West Indies to Tampa. For collectors of UK coins though is not so good.
My wife's mother and two sisters live in Florida (currently Daytona), perhaps I should go visit again, taking with me lots of "worthless" British coins?
The proof sets are not very pricey after 1964. The pre-'64 sets have silver, that a lot of owner confuse with gold, according to the way they price them. I can even find the '65 throu '70 sets with the 40% silver half for a reasonable price. I, myself don't collect the proof sets, except for the prestige sets. I just end up with one now and again, from a deal I work. I just thought I would see if there were any interest in them on here. I still intend to get a better picture, but my camera or the person trying to use it are stuck in stupid mode.
Quote: Matt ProbertBut then again, I'm not keen on Florida....
Matt
Hmm, the place is a bit boring to my mind. I lived there for about six months before heading west. Anyhoo, as Phil rightly said, Florida is a great place for coin collecting. I picked up loads at markets and such like. When I came back to UK, I sold about 5 Morgan dollars I had for about 3 times what I paid for them. I kept a couple of proof sets though, which cost next to nothing at the time (I seem to remember about $3 each). In any case, honestly, I can't get very excited about US currency to tell the truth. Oh, I love the coins as much as any coins, but it's this mania in the US over error coins that puts me off, but that's just my opinion.
Still, if ya ain't in the US, ctucker's offer would be a great way to get a proof set. Hmm, it could be a good idea for Numista to add mint sets to the database. I dunno.
It would be great to have them listed. Even better if they were connected to the individual coins, so you only had to list the proof set and it would show on the individal page as well.
Quote: Matt ProbertBut then again, I'm not keen on Florida....
Matt
Hmm, the place is a bit boring to my mind. I lived there for about six months before heading west. Anyhoo, as Phil rightly said, Florida is a great place for coin collecting. I picked up loads at markets and such like. When I came back to UK, I sold about 5 Morgan dollars I had for about 3 times what I paid for them. I kept a couple of proof sets though, which cost next to nothing at the time (I seem to remember about $3 each). In any case, honestly, I can't get very excited about US currency to tell the truth. Oh, I love the coins as much as any coins, but it's this mania in the US over error coins that puts me off, but that's just my opinion.
Still, if ya ain't in the US, ctucker's offer would be a great way to get a proof set. Hmm, it could be a good idea for Numista to add mint sets to the database. I dunno.
Amen brother, error coins are in my view flawed coins. Some are interesting, coins struck on wrong planchets, overstruck dates etc. these seem legitimate enough as curios. Die cracks... I don't get it, it's a flawed coin! Lamination errors are even worse, they just look dirty and nasty.
I don't have any figures to prove it but it seems pretty certain that quality standards at the US Mint are nowhere near as rigid as those at the Royal Mint. As a result there are many times more error coins offered for sale ranging from the grotesque to the contrived. A mint employee was recently caught selling huge quatities of presidential dollars to a coin dealer which he had stolen before the final step in the process - adding the year and mint mark to the edge. That raises an interesting question, are these genuine error coins?
I know there are a lot of people who enjoy collecting errors and they do seem to be very knowledgeable and serious collectors. Im, sure the collecting universe would be poorer without them, it's just not for me.
I believe that British coins from the long reign of Queen Victoria are the finest series ever made but I would place modern US coins, say mid 1800's until late 1900's a very close second. I'm also fond of Swiss and Polish coins and I'm building a nice collection of both.
Sorry Tom, didn't intend to hijack the thread.... perhaps we should start a new one, "Your top three favorite coin series"?
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No problem Phil. I have found a home for the proof set. I agree about the error coins. I think most of them are bound to fade into history as a side note. But a few may become enduring legends of American coinage along with the copper '43 cent.
Quote: ScottyHmm, it could be a good idea for Numista to add mint sets to the database. I dunno.
Agreed. If someone has a set they want to exchange, how do they currently do that on here? Or if they want a set how do they search if anyone has it for exchange? Example, I would like a UK set for 1956 or 1975 some day.
Not sure how much work that would be for someone to design for the site. Some sets are not made by official places (so in UK it is the Royal Mint), just by companies or individuals. But whoever makes them, do sets have KM numbers? Thanks
Four examples of sets that I do not think are official. Here are 1956 for the UK (which I mentioned above) and I do not think any of these were issued by the Royal Mint, so if someone did list their set on here there is a chance that the receiver may not be getting what they imagined.
And also 'Sorry Tom, didn't intend to hijack the thread'.
I can see it being tricky for Admin if sets were allowed to be listed on here, with so many varieties around, as shown. Would only official sets be permitted, then if so what if someone has a set like those above?!
And that is just sets for one year; I saw one set (when checking out those four above) for 1954-1956 (containing 8 coins, as around that time some were not minted in a particular year - or whoever made the set did not have all for one year). Another had four farthings 1953-1956. I think I once saw a set that had one coin from each reign e.g. Victoria to Elizabeth II. So there are an endless variety. Good luck
Quote: ZacUKFour examples of sets that I do not think are official. Here are 1956 for the UK (which I mentioned above) and I do not think any of these were issued by the Royal Mint, so if someone did list their set on here there is a chance that the receiver may not be getting what they imagined.
Are they proof? Or are they BUNC made up collections? That is the question! So long as the coins are real, they are real. But a proof coin is not the same as a circulation coi, as we know. They are made differently, double struck, hand polished etc etc.
I think that mint issued set are listed as well as trail strikes. They carry PS# instead of KM#. I would only have listing for these type proof and uncirulated, mint issued sets. This would avoid confusion about which set one has in their collection, or avaible for swapping. Any non-mint issued sets could be advertised here, on the forum, so that they could be discribed more in detail and the receiver would be aware of what they were looking at.
Quote: XavierHello,
Numista catalog only lists individual coins. If you want to get or trade a set, you have to use the forum.
Thank you Xavier,
Coin sets aren't really a coin itself, now are they? And it would be a lot of work verifying all those sets!
This is kinda like when one of us decided to do the country *Tokens.* Because they are privately issued and aren't official... at all, they are hard to identify and never verified.
Let's not worry about coin sets.
Kenny
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