2 different Pitis coins for identification

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numismaticroy
Joined: 14 May 2011
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Posted: 21 Dec 2015, 20:59 #
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I believe these to be Pitis coins but need help in working out which ones

Thanks
Roy



Metal: Tin Metal: Tin
Weight: 0.90 Weight: 0.50
Size: 18.96 Size: 18.21
Thickness 0.78 Thickness 0.59
Heretic_Cata
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Posted: 22 Dec 2015, 07:13 #
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Patani- Kelentan it seems but I'm away can't link.
Heretic_Cata
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Posted: 22 Dec 2015, 18:24 #
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What the hell ?
Did you by chance ... Mirror the image on the right ??? None of the words make sense otherwise !
numismaticroy
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Posted: 22 Dec 2015, 18:30 #
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Quote: "Heretic_Cata"​What the hell ?
​Did you by chance ... Mirror the image on the right ??? None of the words make sense otherwise !
​I've checked it and it is correct. Might it be a counterfeit coin?

Roy
PetrusAscanus
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Posted: 22 Dec 2015, 19:35 #
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perhaps between one of these?
http://www.zeno.ru/search.php?searchid=271958
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Heretic_Cata
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Posted: 22 Dec 2015, 20:13 #
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Ok so here is how the second coin SHOULD look:

Like this, it's from Palembang - Sultan Muhammad Bahaudin
http://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=101777
http://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=54128

In regards to the mirroring - i looked through the native sultanates coins and i have seen several examples of error(?) mirroring while minting. So i guess yours in an error coin ?

As for the second coin, i'm not sure but i think it is also from Palembang or Kelentan/Patani but i was not able to match the inscription. The coin is sorta worn and i can't see things clearly. Is the coin uni-face ? There doesn't seem to be a date on it.
numismaticroy
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Posted: 22 Dec 2015, 21:21 #
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Thanks again for the time you have spent researching these two. They are both uniface.


I have tried "enhancing" first coin and enclose my latest attempt at revealing more of the wording.

Heretic_Cata
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Posted: 22 Dec 2015, 23:28 #
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These 2 are close but no cigar:
http://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=54129
http://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=161672
I don't think we can find this exact coin on Zeno ...
There are a lot of unattributed coins from Palembang in the lower part of this category http://www.zeno.ru/showgallery.php?cat=942 below the list of sultans. I couldn't find your there either.
ALLRED1950
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Posted: 23 Dec 2015, 01:40 #
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Hey Roy
Having fun? Hey anyone here know if they had a smaller tin coin? I have one about 2,5 mm with a hole in the middle and no writing. It was in a bag of tin coins. Thank you daryl
It is, what it is, or is it.
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