English Long Cross Penny [solved]

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Hammered coins are not really my thing but I got this too cheap to refuse from a "dealer" who thought it was Mexican!

I've used this website to tentatively identify it as the Class 5 type. Could one of our more knowledgeable members confirm the attribution please. I've not been able to find the mint / moneyer so that would be useful too. I've taken two sets of pictures under different lighting conditions which I hope will be sufficient.

I don't intend to keep it as I don't collect these so if someone could offer an opinion on grade and value that would be outstanding.

Thanks in anticipation.



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If I remember right monephil is your man I'm sure he's into his hammered stuff !
Hi

You are correct it is class 5 coin but with the picture so out of focus this is the best I can do.

English Silver penny

King: Henry III 1247-1272 (Long cross issue)
Moneyer: Gilbert (Moneyer full name: Gilbert de Bonninton)
Mint: Canterbury
Issue Date: 1251-1253
Class: 5a2

When you look closer at your coin the reverse will look like this

GIL | BER | TON | CAN

Hope this is of some help
Nice coin Phil. Your link looks like it will be a good read to.
It is, what it is, or is it.
Hi

Sorry guys I did not know you could add site pointers.

Try this site

http://www.henry3.com/

You will have to cut and paste sorry

New Guy
Welcome to Numista and thank you for the identification.

Would I be very wide of the mark in assuming the coin is in VF condition? What would be a reasonable asking price?
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Hi
Thank you for the welcome, it’s nice to be here.

As for condition? it is hard to say as the picture is so out of focus for my old eyes.
Expect between £40-£60 (UK)
Gilbert coins are not so rare as he worked from Feb 1248 to 1265, one of the guys that still had a job after the re-coinage of 1248 -1250 when most of the mints closed down leaving Canterbury, London, Bury St Edmunds to carry on to the death of Henry III in 1272.
My picture taking skills are quite modest. I had a set up which produced results I could live with but I'm moving my coin collection and all the associated equipment to an empty room we have used for storage so I'm reduced to using my wife's camera. Trust me my friend, it's not your old eyes :)

Thanks once again for your help. I hope you will find Numista useful and you will gather some good contacts amongst our ranks.
Non illegitimis carborundum est.  Excellent advice for all coins.
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Hi
Your camera skill look ok to me, may I suggest the darker style of picture as it can be cut and pasted into WORD and the contrast can be changed so one can see.

It really is just the focus so you should in the case of unknown time for the exposure the camera is NOT hand held and if it has to be, rest it on something steady.

This is what I did with my first box camera LOL

Very old eyes

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