Indrec147 - old copper coin - Possibly from India for identification [solved]

Sometimes when I look at this coin I see an elephant. Then I wonder if I have it upside down! So I have put it on the forum hoping that someone will be able to help!

Roy

Metal: copper
Weight: 4.53g
Size: 18.14mm
Thickness: 2.65mm

Hi Roy,
This is a coin of Hindu medieval rulers of Kashmir, Similar to Didda Rani Coin. But I can't read the text under queen's arm (or it might be out-of-flan) to confirm the ruler name.

Quote: "sujit_kumar"​Hi Roy,
​ This is a coin of Hindu medieval rulers of Kashmir, Similar to Didda Rani Coin. But I can't read the text under queen's arm (or it might be out-of-flan) to confirm the ruler name.
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​Thanks Sujit. Again I don't know how you do it - I couldn't even see the queen's arm!

I found this link with some very similar coins

http://marudhararts.com/e-auction-categories/Coins-Of-INDIA/Hindu-Medieval-of-India/Loharas-of-Kashmir/37460.html


Roy

My god - i can't even see the elephant !

Quote: "Heretic_Cata"​My god - i can't even see the elephant !

​I think the elephant is shy and embarrassed and is now hiding beneath her skirt (see Sujits work of art in the following message). Imagination can be a wonderful blessing but often with me it leads me down the wrong path.

Roy

Sorry my drawing skills are not good but tried by best to outline the queen (In Yellow). Trace of letter can be seen below the arm (In Red) which appears like Nagari "Na" but not sure.

Hi Sujit
Thanks to your artistic skills the elephant has disappeared and transformed into a queen.

I have added a couple of additional strokes - one at the top of the "Na" character and another vertical stroke on the left of the queens body which may be another character.

But don't let my over active imagination confuse you!

Already because of your help the coin has come "alive" and is more meaningful to me

Roy

Hi Roy,

You are correct, some other text is bound to be there, just that it's not very clear to me to be able to read.

Here is a Good Reference, from "Copper Coins of Kashmir" by C. J. Rodgers.

This shows the Obverse and Reverse Inscriptions for various Kashmiri Kings/Queens.

Thanks Sujit.

You must have an impressive library of coin books.

Roy
I have just found this one - what do you think?

INDIA, KASHMIR: Sugandha Rani AE stater. Rare.
Hindu rajas of Kashmi
Sugandha Rani (ruled 904-906 AD)
AE stater (18.5 mm, 5.78 g)

Obverse: Goddess Lakshmi seated facing, with Nagari legend Suga(ndha) at right
Reverse: King standing sacrificing at altar, with Nagari legend Devya at right

Ref: Michael Mitchiner, Non-Islamic States & Western Colonies (AD 600-1979), 164-166
https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/ganga_numismatics/216/product/india_kashmir_sugandha_rani_ae_stater_rare/575157/Default.aspx

It's the same type but not sure if same ruler.

Quote: "sujit_kumar"​It's the same type but not sure if same ruler.

​Thanks Sujit
I will leave to the expert

Roy

Sujit - I took your suggestions (along with your drawing) ond entered it on the world of coins web site and have just received the following response:

Hello Roy, welcome to WoC !

Your rough attribution to the Kashmir rulers is correct. The vertical line adjacent to the right side of the body (left side of the coin) defines it as one of the earlier post-Toramana rulers. To make things more difficult the character to the left of the body (right side of the coin) can be either the first or the second character of the name. However, in this case i am fairly confident this should be read as "Go" leading to only one candidate: Gopalavarma (ca 902-904AD).

http://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=103063
Roy

I agree. It does look like the Coin you posted. Seems like a rare issue as well. Congrats!!

Thanks Sujit
It was all your hard work and artistry that led to it being identified. I am entering it on the catalogue with your drawing as well.

Roy

Thanks Roy. Nice Find!