Instead of April Fools' Day, I prefer the Wet Monday tradition. This year, they were on the same day.
I must agree, these coins do not win any beauty pageants. Taking a good photo of one, especially through the holder/flip, is a challenge. They almost never look new and shiny. Patina is not noticeable. They often have that look of an unwashed black car. If they are steel or iron with a zinc coating, it becomes a rusty unwashed car. Their appeal lies in the imperfections, if you can learn to accept them.
Here is one that I got fairly recently...
I can't wait to get a set of the Romanian Kingdom zincs.
Yeah, I heard about this from my Polish relatives. The main problem is that there aren't many girls in the UK who understand why you're sprinkling water over them.
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Quote: n3v3rI have both the zinc and the nickel and its zinc kidd allday
Maybe it's the light in your photo. Has it been cleaned somehow? Let's see a side by side photo of the two, that will help with different shade varieties.
Being an avid collector of 3rd Reich coins it's impossible to avoid the ugly little buggers in the 1 - 10 Reichpfennig denominations from 1940 onwards. I regard zinc coins as an unavoidable compromise in the search for the complete collection. They are also the most challenging.
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I'll show you tomorrow when I get pictures (I'm charging my camera) a beautiful set of 1957 Albania zinc coins. Even after all those years they are shiny!
So here as promised, my most beautiful zinc coins, although so many years passed they are still shiny, uncirculated. This set will go to a swapper here, and in a couple of weeks another set might be available for another lucky collector.
I was not born in neither 1947 and 1957, so I don't know if the appearance was the same, but having seen oxidized coins of both years, they age the same, so I think they were the same definitely. Now I think key is the conservation.
I got these coins from the Government Reserves, where they are stored in the original Gozniak wooden boxes, as they came from CCCP. Apparently old Soviet boxes are the best thing to store zinc coins!
I have not been seeking zinc coins in particular, but I seem to have many of those involved in discussion, with the except of the French centimes, I have only 4 of them, and the 5 Stotinki I am missing also. Might look for them in the future, inspired by this thread!
Now I was checking all of my zinc, and found out that the 1 Rappen and the Yugoslavia 10 Para 1920 are in the poorer shapes...I hope I will make some more pictures tomorrow.
those are some very nice examples you got! It seems to me they are in slabs and graded maybe? I am also glad that this thread woke your interest and decided to post after more than 1 year of membership :)
Hi Lidanb,
Yeah.....I'm new to the whole message board side of Numista. I've mostly used it as a reference up to this point, but last night I checked out the community and it looked like a good bunch, so I decided to jump in! And zinc coins are a subject near and dear to my heart and seeing the great coins posted, I decided to share some of my treasures.
About my coins......thanks for the kind words! They're some of my favorites. I'm attempting a full set of the Reichskreditkassen coins of both denominations aside from the really impossible ones. The coins I posted have all been NGC graded and they grades are as follows:
1940-A 10 Pfenning-AU Surface Hairlines
1941-A 10 Pfennig-UNC Environmental Damage ( because of the little tiny spot of zinc rust)
1940-A 5 Pfennig-UNC-Surface Hairlines
1945-A 10 Pfennig-MS 62.
The Reichskreditkassens all detail graded, but that's extremely common with those. I just go for pure eye appeal there and not worry about things like surface hairlines. My 1945-A 10 Pfennig is the highest graded example by NGC.
Thanks for the warm welcome! I plan on being a much more active member of the community from now on.
Lovely coins Mohawk. I've never been lucky with the Reichskreditkassen coins, they seem to be very popular and pretty much always go way over value.
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Hi 15Turtles!
Thanks for your kind words!! The cheapest year for both denominations are the 1940-A coins. You can also sometimes find the 1940-D 5 Reichspfennig for a little over $100.....the others though.....they're steep, but so worth it if you can find them. My 1941-A I bought from a dealer in Germany after looking for one for about 3 years. The good news is this.....both of my gorgeous 1940-A coins came from sellers on Ebay!! I paid $115 for the 5 Reichspfennig and $350 for the 10 Reichspfennig.
Hi apuking
Thanks for your kind words as well! No doubt about it, Reichskreditkassens are tough mistresses, but I'm head over heels for them!! They're currently my top priority numismatic pursuits. I have two others I haven't posted, a 1941-A 5 Reichspfennig that's also an NGC UNC Details and a gorgeous raw 1940-J 10 Reichspfennig. You're absolutely right on these....you can pretty much throw the book away when buying them!! My advice is if you find one you like with good eye appeal and you can afford it, jump on it! You won't be sorry you did!
Hi 15Turtles...
I'm guessing from your reply you saw the guy on Ebay with the WAY overpriced 1940-D 5 Reichspfennig.......I saw him too, last night. If it was a 1940-J or 1940-E his price would be justified, but he's ridiculous! I saw one a little while ago on Ebay certified by NGC UNC Details-Environmental Damage but a ton more attractive than the one on Ebay right now go for around $140.
Quote: torontokubaAs promised and to add a bit more variety to this topic, that by the way started out as an April Fools' joke...
It turns out the joke was on them, it's turned into a pretty popular thread. I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and your Bulgarian coin is pretty nice.
I'm so glad the tis zinc thread turned the tables on the April fooler ( not really a word, but it is now for the context of this reply). Zinc coins are great, and much more challenging than many people who don't collect them think they are. It's pretty easy to find nice gold and silver, but if you find a beautiful zinc coin with nice color and none of that nasty white crust.....you've found a treasure! I've been collecting for 14 years, and I can easily say that my zinc pursuits have been my most challenging...........and that's exactly why I love them!
That is very interesting, I didn't knew that even Tunisia had zinc coins, apparently they must be the same planchets of French Lindauer zinc centimes. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces10718.html
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