Hi all,
two more coins - and again I was not able to identify them yet:
#3:
- Diameter: 21 mm
- Thickness: 5.6 mm
- Weight: 15.9 g
- Material: copper (probably) - not magnetic


#4:
- Diameter: 18.5 mm
- Thickness: 4.9 mm
- Weight: 8 g
- Material: copper (probably) - not magnetic
Pic4 looks very similar as obverse of N#138253, but unfortunately reverse looks completely different


Can anyone help to identify these coins?
Thanks a lot in advance!