What errors do you see here and in generally what are values on coins with these errors? Weight is 5.66 diameter is .955 and composition is cupro-nickel.
Post-mint damage, no errors, there are like one of your kind coming on to the platform daily to ask about a quarter that has been sitting out on a parking lot for too long, expecting an answer related to an error, or something valuable
I am more experienced in the field of ancient and chinese coins, south-east asian coins included too!
Not sure how parking lot damage could could possibly print America backwards in the edge but okay…..and two posts previous count for day after day? Are you sure you know what day it is? If I didn't have rules to follow I would have posted them all in one. After this though, I don't think this is probably a good site to get sound advice apparently. I thought this was what this site was for?!
I did until now. Can you answer my question I asked you so that you can back up your opinion and show me that you know what you are talking about. I came for facts not opinions.
Not sure how parking lot damage could could possibly print America backwards in the edge but okay…..and two posts previous count for day after day? Are you sure you know what day it is? If I didn't have rules to follow I would have posted them all in one. After this though, I don't think this is probably a good site to get sound advice apparently. I thought this was what this site was for?!
I would say the reverse America is most likely post-mint damage by someone sticking two coins together and pressing them, either in a vice or some other pressure-inducing device. An error of this nature coming from the mint in almost if not completely unheard of. Also, the overall damage on the coin is very typical of a coin that has been worn out and abused in every day circulation, and as some other here have put it, been out in a parking lot exposed to the elements too long.
And trust me I won't be coming here when the individuals responding don't know and are putting false info out …
Welcome, jackals. If you want an independent assessment, that's a great idea! However, a TPG (Third Party Grading Company) would immediately assign this coin a "Details: Damage" grade (see Reference #1 below for more info). A "Details" grade in this instance would represent the "kiss of death" for market value for a Modern (Post 1964) clad based coin such as this.
If you don't believe what everyone is telling you on this forum, feel free to send it off to one of the professional coin grading services (CACG, PCGS, NGC, ANACS), pay a lot of money for having it graded, and then receive a "Details: Damage" grade on your coin.
In short, this coin is worth face value (25 cents) due to substantial PMD. Even if it did have a legitimate mint error, the PMD alone would negate any perceived value from having a mint error.
And trust me I won't be coming here when the individuals responding don't know and are putting false info out …
Hello and welcome to Numista!
Please do not judge the entire Numista site by one member. 99.9% of the members are not so rude.
Yes, your coin could not have come from the mint that way. The damage to it is definitely post mint. Here's a good (albeit simplistic) description of how modern coins are made. Coin Production By having an understanding of the major steps to make a coin you'll be able to discern what could possibly be a mint error and what could not.
As far as the backwards AMERICA, I made this with two normal coins and a hammer and anvil to explain to another member how it could happen. The design of one coin on top of another gets impressed into the other.
Theoretically, this could happen at the mint if one coin doesn't eject properly and gets pressed into the new coin but in that case it would not have the detail of (on your coin) the obverse (heads) side.
my apologies if I seem rude, it feels to me that so many come to the site showing their ordinary coins and are expecting an answer that their coin is ultra rare and some new variety that commands a extraordinarily high price
I am more experienced in the field of ancient and chinese coins, south-east asian coins included too!
I am going to try this once more because I find it hard to believe that post mint damage could make the word "America" appear backwards on the obverse. Hopefully this picture is clearer. Maybe it's not a mint error, but please someone explain how that would occur from damage……
This is a problem in my country too, people find coins in parking lot or damaged and ask what error is and how much it worth.
I made a rule: If you need to ask if there is an error, then there is not.
Because will be just a matter of opinion, “hey Mary said is an error, Jhon said is not”.
Real coin errors leave no place for doubt.
Yes when people are not into collecting coins that's why they ask to learn. And yes, when you need a damn microscope to see some of the errors on coins you can't sit there and say it so obvious. I guess a lot of coin collectors are coin error snobs apparently and I am not into that yuppie crap
Not sure how parking lot damage could could possibly print America backwards in the edge but okay…..and two posts previous count for day after day? Are you sure you know what day it is? If I didn't have rules to follow I would have posted them all in one. After this though, I don't think this is probably a good site to get sound advice apparently. I thought this was what this site was for?!
I would say the reverse America is most likely post-mint damage by someone sticking two coins together and pressing them, either in a vice or some other pressure-inducing device. An error of this nature coming from the mint in almost if not completely unheard of. Also, the overall damage on the coin is very typical of a coin that has been worn out and abused in every day circulation, and as some other here have put it, been out in a parking lot exposed to the elements too long.
I had t got to this message before I posted my last picture, but thank you, that answer makes sense to me. Much appreciated.
And trust me I won't be coming here when the individuals responding don't know and are putting false info out …
Welcome, jackals. If you want an independent assessment, that's a great idea! However, a TPG (Third Party Grading Company) would immediately assign this coin a "Details: Damage" grade (see Reference #1 below for more info). A "Details" grade in this instance would represent the "kiss of death" for market value for a Modern (Post 1964) clad based coin such as this.
If you don't believe what everyone is telling you on this forum, feel free to send it off to one of the professional coin grading services (CACG, PCGS, NGC, ANACS), pay a lot of money for having it graded, and then receive a "Details: Damage" grade on your coin.
In short, this coin is worth face value (25 cents) due to substantial PMD. Even if it did have a legitimate mint error, the PMD alone would negate any perceived value from having a mint error.
I do believe you guys. Those were wrote to only one individual who dis not explain anything clearly so that I would understand. I appreciate the advice and clear explanation rather than the rant about my daily posts asking questions after two posts. I thought that this site was for such questions. Needless to say I wasnt doubting what was said just asking for clarification on how that could happen from a parking lot damage to which apparently to them meant I was doubting them which led to them being defensive instead of answering my question. I really stopped looking to them for an answer because they were rude and acted like a know it all. I do not coin collect and was chatting with a friend who collects and thought it would be fun to learn because you never know if you might find one of the big ones! Thank you
"Put two coins one on top of the other and hammer them. The writing will be backwards.
Someone said that above in the comments and now it is clear to me. I appreciate all the responses that showed a little patience because I don't collect and am learning. That makes sense and now I know because my second question was going to be “why doesn't it match up with the backside where it says America?”
Not sure how parking lot damage could could possibly print America backwards in the edge but okay…..and two posts previous count for day after day? Are you sure you know what day it is? If I didn't have rules to follow I would have posted them all in one. After this though, I don't think this is probably a good site to get sound advice apparently. I thought this was what this site was for?!
I would say the reverse America is most likely post-mint damage by someone sticking two coins together and pressing them, either in a vice or some other pressure-inducing device. An error of this nature coming from the mint in almost if not completely unheard of. Also, the overall damage on the coin is very typical of a coin that has been worn out and abused in every day circulation, and as some other here have put it, been out in a parking lot exposed to the elements too long.
And trust me I won't be coming here when the individuals responding don't know and are putting false info out …
Hello and welcome to Numista!
Please do not judge the entire Numista site by one member. 99.9% of the members are not so rude.
Yes, your coin could not have come from the mint that way. The damage to it is definitely post mint. Here's a good (albeit simplistic) description of how modern coins are made. Coin Production By having an understanding of the major steps to make a coin you'll be able to discern what could possibly be a mint error and what could not.
As far as the backwards AMERICA, I made this with two normal coins and a hammer and anvil to explain to another member how it could happen. The design of one coin on top of another gets impressed into the other.
Theoretically, this could happen at the mint if one coin doesn't eject properly and gets pressed into the new coin but in that case it would not have the detail of (on your coin) the obverse (heads) side.
That's pretty cool, thank you. I am learning and people being rude and snobby does not work for me. I read the rules and I have to post each one separately and they got on my case for posting two coins in similar nature, sorry for doing exactly what I was suppose to on this forum! I will not base my opinions on one rude, snob who doesn't understand that people ask because they are not aware. Thanks again!
I mean if you don’t like my answer, let’s wait for more people to come here, I’m sure my ”foolish” answer isnt good enough to answer you.
If you would have responded with one of the explanations as these others have taken the time to do instead of getting on my case for the “daily” posts with questions I would have understood but you were too foolish to understand what was being asked you're rude and if you don't have the patience and understanding of what is. Being asked than don't respond…..
My answer to you was it was PMD, I could not explain the words, so I waited for the others, in no way was I trying to be rude, I think you mistook it, because I keep seeing you post ordinary coins and asking whether it is some error, as with all who repeat what they had done previously, I would imagine that the person wants to find something that’s ultra-rare about their coin even if it seems otherwise
I am more experienced in the field of ancient and chinese coins, south-east asian coins included too!
my apologies if I seem rude, it feels to me that so many come to the site showing their ordinary coins and are expecting an answer that their coin is ultra rare and some new variety that commands a extraordinarily high price
You are rude it didn't seem rude, not everyone is up to your high standards as far understanding coin collecting I don't collect I came here to learn as I am sure many others do too. And I am not sure how my questions demanded an extraordinarily high price read the feed again and take it hows it's being asked not how you assume it.
This is my best vise job. Could be a blockage. But keep it just for fun.
Did you mean a brockage? I appreciate all the examples and the clear explanation. I never thought of the fact that people could do that, but just like anything people are gonna try to pass off fakes. This makes sense, and the first person to answer was very incorrect, the only way it could have been parking lot damage was if it was pressed in a vise in a parking lot lol
My answer to you was it was PMD, I could not explain the words, so I waited for the others, in no way was I trying to be rude, I think you mistook it, because I keep seeing you post ordinary coins and asking whether it is some error, as with all who repeat what they had done previously, I would imagine that the person wants to find something that’s ultra-rare about their coin even if it seems otherwise
I t was rare whether or not an error but nowhere did I say I expected it to be valued at a million dollars or anything like that.
Brockage occurs when a mirror image of a coin is struck on a blank. After a struck coin fails to eject, a new blank is fed between the struck coin and the hammer die. The hammer die strikes the second blank leaving its image on one side while pressing the blank against the previously stuck coin which sinks its image into opposite side. Most brockages are off-center, but fully overlapping brockages are the most desirable. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mint-made_errors
I appreciate all the help and hope that people who had misunderstanding as of me simply trying to learn understand me better now. Please everyone keep in mind that people come here because they don't know and to please have patience. I am going to start a new forum under the chit chat column asking people how they learned about coin collecting because I would like some tips and would enjoy hearing your stories. Thank you everyone!
Brockage occurs when a mirror image of a coin is struck on a blank. After a struck coin fails to eject, a new blank is fed between the struck coin and the hammer die. The hammer die strikes the second blank leaving its image on one side while pressing the blank against the previously stuck coin which sinks its image into opposite side. Most brockages are off-center, but fully overlapping brockages are the most desirable. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mint-made_errors
That is what I was alluding to in my reply.
Okay I have read about that and thought that is what you were saying but didn't know for sure. Google corrections!
oing to try this once more because I find it hard to believe that post mint damage could make the word "America" appear backwards on the obverse. Hopefully this picture is clearer. Maybe it's not a mint error, but please someone explain how that would occur from damage……
