Changing material of 1 Rouble coin froom 1965.

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This message aims at: requesting the modification of a coin in the catalogue

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I spotted an issue on the type of mettal alloy used in the catalog of 1 Rouble 1965. It's saying that the coin is made from Nickle Silver but its made of Copper-Nickle-Zinc.

 

Info found on:https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/russia-rouble-y-135.1-1965-cuid-1087081-duid-1524441

Nickel Silver is an alloy of copper and nickel and zinc but feel free to submit a request to change it.

Ok, i just found out more about that alloy and there is no need for a change, but i was misslead becouse i am a bit never to the comunity. Thx for the feedback, i learned something new.

Status changed to Rejected (ZacUK, 14 Jun 2024, 11:42)

You were quite right, there is need for a change. "Nickel-silver" is a misleading (and chemcally impossible) term that we should not be using precisely because it causes confusion such as this.

Former Numista referee for banknotes from Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Saint Helena.

ceh2019

You were quite right, there is need for a change. "Nickel-silver" is a misleading (and chemcally impossible) term that we should not be using precisely because it causes confusion such as this.

Hence my “…but feel free to submit a request to change it.” 

Unfortunately, copper-nickel-zinc isn't an option. We do have nickel brass, whch is used for other Soviet coins but surely we should remove “nickel-silver” and substitute it everywhere with a correct description.

Former Numista referee for banknotes from Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Saint Helena.

ceh2019

Unfortunately, copper-nickel-zinc isn't an option. We do have nickel brass, whch is used for other Soviet coins but surely we should remove “nickel-silver” and substitute it everywhere with a correct description.

I think we've had this discussion before and we agreed 100%.  Getting it done is something else entirely.

I've just done a search and “nickel silver” occurs 353 time (although just 32 when patterns and non-ciculating pieces are excluded). It's doable by hand but I'd rather the admins stepped in. “Nickel silver” is linked to “maillechort” in French. Sadly, there's no corresponding term in English, so the best solution is to change the translation of “maillechort” to “copper-nickel-zinc”, then let us weed out any cases where that's incorrect.

Former Numista referee for banknotes from Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Saint Helena.

There were threads about nickel silver, German silver, New silver Alpacca or Paktong since I can remember on this site.

https://en.numista.com/forum/topic39997.html

https://en.numista.com/forum/topic92292.html

https://en.numista.com/forum/topic117302.html

https://en.numista.com/forum/topic126465.html

And HERE it seems there was a decision made to call whitish Copper Nickel Zinc alloys Copper-Nickel-Zinc and yellowish one Nickel brass.

But technically they are all types of brass alloys regardless of their relative percentages.

 

I just don't want the word Silver or Gold (like in Nordic Gold) in the material list when non of it is in the actual coins, if we have to have it put it in the additional details. 

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