Need help to identify and value 2 coins (I think Chinese)

Hello everyone, years ago I found 2 coins, and I know nothing about them, would like to know more about them, including if fake or real, and maybe even it's value.

Hello. Welcome to Numista! 

They are real but not coins. The first one is a Charm Token like this one:  N#217897 Doesn't have much value.

I agree with the above comment, both are not real. Both are charms, the first one imitating a Qianlong Tongbao.

Oh I see, so they both are just charms, thanks a lot for the help!

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Oh I see, so they both are just charms, thanks a lot for the help!

“just a charm” doesn't mean without interest 😀

Sometimes it's fun to understand what the goal was …

And as a major fact, the second charm is not so obvious …

金魚 福五

Somehow related to the 5 dragons blessing ?

I see, u was interested in thier history and more info about them