For starters I found this out when looking for the coin one of my friends had, and noticed a lot of things off about this page.
For reference here is all the listed 3 kreuzers of Solms-Hohensolms listed by the Krause 1501-date (2011) German Coins book (I looked on ngc to see if the numbers on their website matched up to the numbers I had of Solms-Hohensolms in my book and they did so I do not think this is a problem of the numbers later being changed in new edition books.)
Here is what I found to be wrong on the numista page:
For starters, KM# 19 is not a 3 kreuzer but a pfennig
Second, nowhere in krause does it pair up the later dates of this numista page (1618 & 1619) with the earlier dates of the page (1612-1616) so this page might very well need to be split up into multiple pages
What I am finding is that the image used for this page is KM# 48
The coin my friend asked me to identify which I will show here→
I found to be the variety with no date thus making it the no date variety of KM# 42
I just wanted to point this out to the referees since this is much more than just what one edit request can accomplish if it is to be fixed.
I just wanted to point this out to the referees since this is much more than just what one edit request can accomplish if it is to be fixed.
Then simplest is to DM him or tag him: @escoins :-)
sorry, I had dmed him before on something else a long time ago and he did not answer so I just assumed he did not take dm's and also I did not know you could tag people now
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For starters I found this out when looking for the coin one of my friends had, and noticed a lot of things off about this page.
For reference here is all the listed 3 kreuzers of Solms-Hohensolms listed by the Krause 1501-date (2011) German Coins book (I looked on ngc to see if the numbers on their website matched up to the numbers I had of Solms-Hohensolms in my book and they did so I do not think this is a problem of the numbers later being changed in new edition books.)
Here is what I found to be wrong on the numista page:
For starters, KM# 19 is not a 3 kreuzer but a pfennig
Second, nowhere in krause does it pair up the later dates of this numista page (1618 & 1619) with the earlier dates of the page (1612-1616) so this page might very well need to be split up into multiple pages
What I am finding is that the image used for this page is KM# 48
The coin my friend asked me to identify which I will show here→
I found to be the variety with no date thus making it the no date variety of KM# 42
I just wanted to point this out to the referees since this is much more than just what one edit request can accomplish if it is to be fixed.
well my friend bought that coin so hopefully it can be used for images for the km# 42 page
- Obv description should read: Fourfold arms, titles of Philip around.
- The date table should only contain dates (16)17 and (16)18 for KM#48.
Alternatively, additional KM types and dates could be included if the coin design does not differ in major ways (discretion of referee to some extent).
- Obv description should read: Fourfold arms, titles of Philip around.
- The date table should only contain dates (16)17 and (16)18 for KM#48.
Alternatively, additional KM types and dates could be included if the coin design does not differ in major ways (discretion of referee to some extent).
Nice, also my friend got the KM# 42 no date one so later on I can make a creation request with his pictures under copyright credit to him ofc he just has to get it and I asked him to see if he can get better lighted pics of it.
@escoins ???? sorry, but going to need your assessment and answer at what we are going to do about this because this page needs to be split into quite a few pages.
Dear @silvergeek, @tdziemia , I agree with your assessment completely! There are a lot of things wrong on this page. Not only KM# but also Joseph Sol# is assigned incorrectly. The combined years are also inaccurate.
KM and Joseph (= the one and only reference for Solms coins) agree on this point. The coin shown corresponds to the KM# 48 and Joseph Sol# 210c.
According to KM, the year 1617 would also be included. That would be in Joseph Sol# 206, 207, 208, 209. I would only dedicate the existing Numista page to these two years. For the others - which would also be new KM# - I would expect a corresponding request.
Neither Joseph nor KM list the year 1613 for this coin type. That's why I'm quite surprised that two of our members apparently own such a coin.
@Jarcek Is it possible to find out who they are and ask them for a picture of their coin?
Dear @silvergeek, @tdziemia , I agree with your assessment completely! There are a lot of things wrong on this page. Not only KM# but also Joseph Sol# is assigned incorrectly. The combined years are also inaccurate.
KM and Joseph (= the one and only reference for Solms coins) agree on this point. The coin shown corresponds to the KM# 48 and Joseph Sol# 210c.
According to KM, the year 1617 would also be included. That would be in Joseph Sol# 206, 207, 208, 209. I would only dedicate the existing Numista page to these two years. For the others - which would also be new KM# - I would expect a corresponding request.
Neither Joseph nor KM list the year 1613 for this coin type. That's why I'm quite surprised that two of our members apparently own such a coin.
@Jarcek Is it possible to find out who they are and ask them for a picture of their coin?
Great and I can make a request made with my friend's pics for the KM# 42 his is the no date variety. He just got the coin in the mail today.
I am creating a page right now with my freind’s coin that has those dates with it just going to be a bit almost done. His is the no date one and then there are ones of the same km number with those dates
I'm not sure if I'll remember it then. Just delete these lines because they are incorrect on this page.
I cannot, there are collectors who indicated having, it's why I need the new yearlines to be created first, to transfer collections
well first up if anybody indicates that they have a 1613 one that would not be solms-hohensolms that is probably a solms-lich since nowhere lists that a 1613 ever existed for solms-hohensolms. For the other years however the 1615 and 1616 they are listed in the krause book only in KM# 42 which is the page I am trying to create just needs @escoins to approve it. The image I gave was from my friend and I credited him by using his numista name for the copyright. His coin is the no date version of the KM#42 since the crest is a solms crest of that time and also it has the title of phillip which the only solms coins his title appears on solms-hohensolms coins. There is another no date type but that is a klippe. So the coin my friend provided images of must be the KM#42.
Well the date on the now KM 48 of 1613 is wrong especially since no Solms Hohensolms 3 kreuzers had that date. But it is still on there and it seems because some people have it down that they have one? At least that is my guess
Status changed to Started(Jarcek, 8 Feb 2024, 12:34)
