Dear friends,
I am compiling a list of rogues/ cheats/ swindlers whom Numista members should avoid. All of you are welcome to contribute a name or names if you had the good fortune to come across one such character. You are welcome to give his location, real name and other particulars if available. Please give only first-hand information. Once the list is compiled, all those who have contributed to the list can ask me for a copy, and this would be a valuable aid for your swapping.
Personally the idea of publishing a list of peoples names and addresses that you believe to be cheats a little distasteful. If you let anybody contribute to this list how do you make sure your not publishing the details of perfectly innocent people?
this list is not going to be published. only those who contribute names, who has first hand information , will get a copy of the list, by private message, on their specific request. it shall be passed on to them , on condition that the list shall not be published and it should only be used as an aid to screen prospective swap partners. nobody wants to be cheated. let us help innocent swappers from getting ripped.
We have a very difficult condition here. I agree that we don't want swindlers here and I also agree that we don't want any rogues getting away with it. But, all it'll take is someone to post the list for one second and the damage is done.
I can't change your mind and I am not trying to...but think carefully and tread with caution. I must admit that two of my packages have gone awry with the same person...he knows that I would not swindle...the point is whether someone is a swindler or not there is the Blacklist of swindlers post...which is a good way of warning people and for privacy I do remove the whole username when published.
Also, swindlers can feed you information too...thus destroying your intent, destroying credible members profile and such like.
The best way to stop a swindler is to do your research etc. Start with a small swap!
There are several websites which list the good the bad and the ugly. Including real names, addresses and phone numbers.
It's actually a great way of preventing serial swindlers like Haroon <blank> of Facebook notoriety from creating multiple accounts. Getting a new user ID takes a few seconds, getting a new mailing address is more difficult.
Listia has a pretty neat system where you have to enter your full name and address to create an account. There is a button to send your mailing info to the other party which will deliver the info from your account. Everyone knows not to accept addresses via email. It's made it harder for the scammers.
I'd be in favor of a Numisdoc with the full contact info of known scam artists but it's not my website so I will continue to respect the current systems until it is changed.
Just to add a word of caution. There is one of our members here who has been listed on such a site but I have swapped with him without any problems. I believe that sometimes the info is provided as a means of revenge by thieves who have been exposed.
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Quote: pjthayilDear friends,
I am compiling a list of rogues/ cheats/ swindlers whom Numista members should avoid. All of you are welcome to contribute a name or names if you had the good fortune to come across one such character. You are welcome to give his location, real name and other particulars if available. Please give only first-hand information. Once the list is compiled, all those who have contributed to the list can ask me for a copy, and this would be a valuable aid for your swapping.
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