Republic of China 1 Yuan "Junk Dollar"

Hello all,

I was hoping to get some opinions regarding the below coin. I believe it to be a Chinese Y#345 1 Yuan. This is from an eBay listing from a reputable seller that does not specialize in coins. As such, I do not have a weight or diameter to help validate. Based on looks alone, does this look genuine or counterfeit?

As a reminder, I did not take these photos, so I apologize if they are of sub-par quality.

Thank you in advance,

Theodore

its looks like you have a 1932 one yuan if i spelled that right made from silver 88% idk i might be wrong or right on what coin you have.it should weight 26.73g

Very difficult to say from photos,especially with Chinese coins,if fake or not!!! The luster is O.K. for genuine silver coin BUT the same may look like if it is a silver plated COPY… As a design it seems not to be a FAKE. Better proofs of authenticity are the weight(as you were already told,26.73g.!),if nonmagnetic metal(most fakes/copies stick to a magnet,silver doesn't!). And the best of all: with a special acid put on a trace of the coin's edge left on a special stone.

AS IT IS NOT YOUR COIN,YOU MAY ASK THE SELLER TO DO THE SIMPLE FIRST 2 (weight & magnet) & TO GUARANTEE YOU THE AUTHENTICITY OF HIS COIN! 

So,please see what all these give…

P.S. The coin is a 1 Yuan,so-called ''boat dollar'',depicting the founder of the chinese republic (1912) Sun Yat Sen.

AndiPasculescu10

 And the best of all: with a special acid put on a trace of the coin's edge left on a special stone.

 

Do you put acid on all your coins?

P.S. The coin is a 1 Yuan,so-called ''boat dollar''

Just as the OP stated in the title.

fjjohnson

 

P.S. The coin is a 1 Yuan,so-called ''boat dollar''

Just as the OP stated in the title.

 

It says Junk Dollar, not Boat Dollar.  Are they synonymous?

1) Dear ‘’fjjohnson'',I NEVER PUT ACID ON NONE OF MINE OR OTHERS COINS!!! If you have paid a bit more attention to what I said you would have noticed that the acid is put on the fine TRACE the edge of a coin (you have doubts on) leaves on a special verification black stone (all these are usual to all jewelry dealers).

2) ‘’Boat dollar'' is a more popular name for the more official ''Junk dollar''. They can be considered the same and the matter is of low importance as designing the same type coin….

OF MUCH MORE IMPORTANCE IS THE FACT THAT CHINA MINTED MORE THAN 30 MILLIONS OF THIS TYPE COIN AFTER 1949,WITH THE SAME YEAR 1932. So,the coin is not rare.

AndiPasculescu10

1) Dear ‘’fjjohnson'',I NEVER PUT ACID ON NONE OF MINE OR OTHERS COINS!!! If you have paid a bit more attention to what I said you would have noticed that the acid is put on the fine TRACE the edge of a coin (you have doubts on) leaves on a special verification black stone (all these are usual to all jewelry dealers).

Sorry if I struck a nerve.  I was just wondering if you put acid on your coins since you've been advising others to do that. 

2) ‘’Boat dollar'' is a more popular name for the more official ''Junk dollar''. They can be considered the same and the matter is of low importance as designing the same type coin….

Sorry, but no.  See for yourself.  Google “boat dollar” showing zero results dealing with a Chinese coin then google “junk dollar” with many thousand results about the Chinese coin.  But you're right, it is of low importance to the original request, especially considering the OP already said in the subject that was the coin he was asking about.  

OF MUCH MORE IMPORTANCE IS THE FACT THAT CHINA MINTED MORE THAN 30 MILLIONS OF THIS TYPE COIN AFTER 1949,WITH THE SAME YEAR 1932. So,the coin is not rare.

Did somebody ask if it was rare?  “Based on looks alone, does this look genuine or counterfeit?”  Answer: “Your coin is not rare.”  

OK,OK!!! Dear friend,well,I didn't use GOOGLE to search the name,it was that I knew better this type of coins… Anyway the problem is closed: everyone should use ''junk'' if they like better!

I SHOULD HAVE BEEN A FOOL TO PUT ACIDS ON COLLECTABLE COINS!

About the authenticity of the coin,I responded in large in my first reply. The rarity of the coin was an extra piece of information. BUT PERHAPS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHARE YOUR OWN OPINION ON THAT MATTER,SO RESPONDING TO THE MEMBER WHO POSTED THE QUERY,INSTEAD OF ANALIZING IN DETAILS OTHER MEMBERS' REPLIES!?! DON'T YOU THINK SO TO BE BETTER?!?

All my best regards!

Definitely a coin to be careful with. I would buy this coin only from a reputable auction house or dealer as this type has soooo many fakes around.

Junk is a very well known type of chinese ship, if you ever visit Honh Kong you will see plenty floating around.

Colleagues.

        After my last experience with these coins from this area when I looked like a crowned ox.

Please principle:  * If a coin far exceeds the price of the metal from which it is made -  its weight and size are completely irrelevant

                                     *magnet and acid leave on artificial teeth for cleaning is useless when the coin significantly exceeds the price of metal

                                     * for all Chinese old coins of any metal if their price is high always assume counterfeit

                                     * As mentioned above - the expensive of this coin is always bought through a stone house that has experts

,, However, this does not apply to wealthy people-they can continue to buy silver and gold coins from street vendors -who claim to have a coin from a great-grandfather who sailed at sea from port to port,,

But it's just the humor and experience I have.

Hi and don't stress each other with acids - they are dangerous even verbally.

Ivan

Dear Ivan,sorry but I didn't understand well your point of view about the fact that ‘’the weight,size,acid proof …are irrelevant IF THE COIN'S PRICE FAR EXCEEDS THE (BULLION) PRICE OF THE METAL (IT SHOULD BE) MADE OF'' 

From your statement,I understand that if a CLAIMED silver coin(let's say)has a 10 $ bullion value AND the seller wants for it 1000 $,THEN IT IS FOR SURE A COUNTERFEIT/FAKE/COPY!!! So,any other tests are useless…

Sorry,but this is what I understood from how you put the problem!

By the other hand,Ivan,I also understand that you have the opinion that if a genuine Chinese coin has a bullion value (again,let's say) of 10$ AND the seller wants for it 30$ THEN ITS AUTHENTICITY IS PROOVED,IT IS NOT A COPY/FAKE/COUNTERFEIT!…(????)

AndiPasculescu10

Dear Ivan,sorry but I didn't understand well your point of view about the fact that ‘’the weight,size,acid proof …are irrelevant IF THE COIN'S PRICE FAR EXCEEDS THE (BULLION) PRICE OF THE METAL (IT SHOULD BE) MADE OF'' 

From your statement,I understand that if a CLAIMED silver coin(let's say)has a 10 $ bullion value AND the seller wants for it 1000 $,THEN IT IS FOR SURE A COUNTERFEIT/FAKE/COPY!!! So,any other tests are useless…

Sorry,but this is what I understood from how you put the problem!

Hello unbeliever.

     Yes, you understand.

You just somehow forgot to note that this mainly concerns coins from this area and mainly dealers- variously offering expensive coins.

Probability theory tells us in these cases, "be careful and don't believe anything,"- This is not a new engraving please, and a modern copy is a deliberate scam.

The goal of fraud is to get rich, and in these parts this industry is absolutely perfect.

Our Czechoslovak interwar gold ducats are also an example, Rare vintages were minted in China  the fraudster's group had exact copies of the ducats made in China with the exact weight and size ( Coins have a value of a hundredfold compared to metal )

,, The principle is that the better the illusion, the greater the deception and the greater the chance of getting rich,,

Only specialized experts could confirm the truth of such a perfect counterfeit coin, by comparing the same fingerprints and commas on special devices.

I held them in my hand because I know a man who bought at a gas station from a bidder for half price ( So rare a coin and a man was poorer by $ 10,000)

And just for fun, a lot of them were sold in Australia and I also think that New Zealand, there was interest and money -and lucky owners have them in safes at the Banks.

Yes, the illusion is the weight problem when silver is silver of the same purity, The difference is that ten dollars and a hundred dollars is the difference in weight and size.

Ivan

OK,Ivan,''The Unbeliever'' thanks you for your precise prompt reply!

Best regards!