8 Reales - Charles IV

Features

Issuer	New Spain (Mexico)
Król	Charles IV (Carlos IV) (1788-1808)
Type	Standard circulation coins
Years	1791-1808
Value	8 Reales
Currency	Real (1535-1897)
Composition	Srebro (.896)
Weight	27.07 g
Diameter	39 mm
Shape	Okrągły
Technique	Frezowana
Orientation	Medal alignment ↑↑
Demonetized	Yes
Number	N# 18852
References	KM# 109 Standard Catalog of World Coins (86 volumes).

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Obverse

Popiersie zwrócone w prawo Automatically translated

Script: łaciński

Lettering:
CAROLUS · IIII · DEI · GRATIA
· 1806 ·

Reverse

Ramiona hiszpańskie
Para filarów oddzielonych zwieńczoną prostą tarczą z lwami, zamkami, granatem i trzema wyśrodkowanymi Fleurs-de-Lis. Automatically translated

Script: łaciński

Lettering: · HISPAN · ET IND · REX · Mo · 8R · T · H ·

Unabridged legend:
Hispaniarum Et Indiarum Rex
8 reales

Edge

Z motywami (prostokątnymi i okrągłymi) w reliefie Automatically translated

Mint

(Mo)	Mexican Mint (Casa de Moneda de México), Mexico, Mexico (1535-date)

Comments

Carolus Dollar

W XIX wieku w Azji Wschodniej, zwłaszcza w Chinach, ta moneta z królem Karolusem III była faworyzowana przez kupców, a nawet mówi się, że miała 50% premii w stosunku do innych srebrnych monet o tej samej wadze (których wartość, jeśli zostanie zaakceptowana, jest następnie dyskontowana o około 20-30%). Dlatego też dość często można zobaczyć wersję tej monety ze znakami cięcia, gdy jest ona zatwierdzana przez jednego kupca do drugiego.

Zobacz https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/9695056.pdf i https://www.resellos.com/info/forster-1.php

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Carolus Dollar

In 1800s East Asia, particularly China, this coin and King Carolus III was favored by merchants and is even said to have 50% premium over other silver coins of equal weight (whose value if accepted are then discounted by about 20-30%). Thus it is quite common to see a version of this coin with chopmarks as it gets validated from one merchant to another.

See https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/9695056.pdf and https://www.resellos.com/info/forster-1.php

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Date	VG	F	VF	XF	AU	UNC		Frequency
Undetermined
1791 FM			$ 160	$ 160	$ 270	$ 520		7%
1792 FM			$ 99	$ 190	$ 320	$ 620		5%
1793 FM			$ 140	$ 140	$ 230	$ 2100		9%
1794 FM			$ 130	$ 230	$ 300	$ 1600		10%
1795 FM			$ 150	$ 190	$ 270	$ 1600	(en) overdate variety exists	8%
1796 FM			$ 120	$ 170	$ 310	$ 900		10%
1797 FM		$ 150	$ 150	$ 180	$ 300	$ 660		10%
1798 FM			$ 180	$ 330	$ 390	$ 510		8%
1799 FM		$ 110	$ 110	$ 160	$ 300	$ 630		8%
1800 FM			$ 170	$ 210	$ 290		(en) overdate variety exists	7%
1801 FM							(en) overdate varieties exist	3%
1801 FT							(en) overdate variety exists	3%
1802 FT		$ 150	$ 150	$ 180	$ 250	$ 530	(en) overdate variety exists	8%
1803 FT			$ 130	$ 130	$ 140			7%
1803 TH								1.0%
1804 TH							(en) error "CARLUS"	0.2%
1804 TH		$ 140	$ 140	$ 170			(en) overdate variety exists	11%
1805 TH			$ 200				(en) narrow date	3%
1805 TH			$ 140	$ 160	$ 160		(en) normal date; overdate variety exists	8%
1805 TH							(en) wide date	1.4%
1806 TH		$ 73	$ 130	$ 150	$ 300	$ 640		13%
1807 TH	$ 100	$ 120	$ 120	$ 200	$ 270	$ 570	(en) overdate variety exists	14%
1808 TH	$ 120	$ 120	$ 120	$ 130	$ 270	$ 670	(en) overdate variety exists	11%

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Numista Rarity index: 13 Wskazówki wyszukiwania

This index is based on the data of Numista members collections. It ranges from 0 to 100, 0 meaning a very common coin or banknote and 100 meaning a rare coin or banknote among Numista members.

Bullion value: USD 52.89 Wskazówki wyszukiwania

This value is given for information purpose only. It is based on a price of srebro at 2181 USD/kg. Numista does not buy or sell coins or metal.

Actual srebro weight: 0.780 oz

Current srebro price: 67.83 USD/oz (see silver price

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Examples of the type

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Past sales

Pictures	Sale	Date	Version	Grade	Sold price
	Heritage Auctions 2024 October 20 - 21 Spotlight: Mexico World Coins Showcase Auction 61409 Lot 22133	20 Oct 2024	1791 FM	UNC (PCGS MS61)	USD 630.00 (incl. buyer's premium)
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	Heritage Auctions Wednesday & Thursday World & Ancient Coins Weekly Online Auction 232101 Lot 61462	6 Jan 2021	1791 FM	UNC (NGC UNC Details (Cleaned))	USD 312.00 (incl. buyer's premium)
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	Heritage Auctions 2026 February 8 Spotlight: Latin America World Coins Showcase Auction 61595 Lot 25215	8 Feb 2026	1791 FM	AU (NGC AU Details (Cleaned))	USD 195.20 (incl. buyer's premium)
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	Heritage Auctions 2024 February 4 Spotlight: Mexico World Coins Showcase Auction 61360 Lot 21039	4 Feb 2024	1791 FM	AU (NGC AU55)	USD 336.00 (incl. buyer's premium)
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	Heritage Auctions 2023 July 16 Spotlight: Mexico Coins Showcase Auction 61330 Lot 23062	16 Jul 2023	1791 FM	AU (NGC AU53)	USD 312.00 (incl. buyer's premium)
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	Heritage Auctions Wednesday & Thursday World & Ancient Coins Select Auction 232239 Lot 65573	22 Sep 2022	1791 FM	AU	The lot includes several items.
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	Heritage Auctions 2022 July 24 Mexican Coins Showcase Auction 61280 Lot 99034	24 Jul 2022	1791 FM	AU (NGC AU53)	USD 336.00 (incl. buyer's premium)
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	Heritage Auctions Wednesday & Thursday World & Ancient Coins Select Auction 232125 Lot 64614	23 Jun 2021	1791 FM	AU (NGC AU Details (Cleaned))	USD 264.00 (incl. buyer's premium)
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	Katz Auction 182 Lot 2879	6 Feb 2026	1791 FM	XF	USD 109.48 (EUR 95.00) (+ buyer's premium)
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	Katz Auction 171 Lot 3453	10 Oct 2025	1791 FM	XF	USD 174.02 (EUR 151.00) (+ buyer's premium)
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